Winning Orchid(s) Species Project

[sandra]

PHALAENOPSIS amboinensis - won by 5, not 6. MaryAnna did not sign up for the project and therefore, disqualified from the voting. (As well, not an active member, with only 3 prior posts but, we'd love to have her join in!)

Paphiopedilum spicerianum - won by 4, not 5. Nenella had not signed up for the project and therefore, disqualified from the voting (but not the project participation).

As it was brought up recently, consideration to members wanting an alternative choice from the winning orchid was suggested and agreed on. So instead of doing another poll and being that the runner up’s in this poll resulted in a 3 way tie (4 votes each), members will have a choice of 4 species to choose for the project.

MEMBER'S CHOICES:

PHALAENOPSIS amboinensis Oak Hill Gardens $6.00 (discount n/a)
Paphiopedilum spicerianum Oak Hill Gardens $12.00 (discount n/a)
KOELLENSTEINIA graminea Oak Hill Gardens $15.00 (discount n/a)
ASPASIA lunata Oak Hill Gardens $15.00 (discount n/a)

U.S. members may order on line at: Oak Hill Gardens Shipping is $12.50 for purchases (including multiple plants) up to $50.

International members: I've been trying to gain access to the thread "Oak Hill New & Improved Plant List" in this forum but the site, as you know, has been up and down today due to maintainence and I haven't been too successful at this time to get in to it. There are a few links there for purchasing. As well, check on Internet Orchid Species Photo Encyclopedia for additional links to purchasing websites.

After you have placed your order, please let me know by posting here, in this thread which orchid you are waiting to receive. Fred will be setting up sub forums, specifically for this project.

It would probably be a good idea to start off by making sure your cameras batteries are charged and taking a pic of your plant upon receiving it and then after you've transferred it into your desired mediums, pots, where you've set up, what conditions you're growing in, etc., etc. and any information you've found about the species you're growing.

Are we all happy? I reeeeealy hope so.

[articuno75]

You have to forgive me, I'm confused.

So we pick the winner of the vote, or pick from the top 4?

[mayres]

Hi Sandra - good work!
I have ordered
1) Phalaenopsis amboinensis
2) Paphiopedilum spicerianum

[sandra]

Jenny, you have the option of any 1 of the 4 orchids listed under Member's Choices.....any one your heart desires or, all 4 if you want!

[articuno75]

Woo hoo, awesome!!! I know which ones I'm getting , but I'll order mine later this week. My funds got blown away by the flu and I have to take Mason to Riley.

[evagentry]

You have done a good job of putting all this together Sandra, thank you.

[patticake]

Yay!! I'm so excited! (I'm also feeling better after having a bad cold. ) I've finally decided on 2 plants. I've ordered:
Phalaenopsis amboinensis and
Aspasia lunata

I'm really looking forward to both of these plants... Thanks to Sandra and Fred for all your work.

[kmarch]

Can you please post the specifics of the plants that won so that those outside the US can get a plant that is comparable in size. Please post:

1) Leaf span and approximate number of leaves
2) Pot size
3) Level of maturity (seedling, advanced seedling, near blooming size, blooming size, previously flowered) and what that means.

This will help the overseas members get a plant that is about the same size as the ones the Americans are getting. I have 4 or 5 Paph spicerianum, some advanced seedlings and one blooming size) so if the ones purchased are of a similar size, I'll participate in the project.

[flowerchild]

I guess if I can find any of these from Canadian vendors, I can go ahead and order one eh?

[sandra]

Originally Posted by kmarch

Can you please post the specifics of the plants that won so that those outside the US can get a plant that is comparable in size. Please post:

1) Leaf span and approximate number of leaves
2) Pot size
3) Level of maturity (seedling, advanced seedling, near blooming size, blooming size, previously flowered) and what that means.

This will help the overseas members get a plant that is about the same size as the ones the Americans are getting. I have 4 or 5 Paph spicerianum, some advanced seedlings and one blooming size) so if the ones purchased are of a similar size, I'll participate in the project.

The objective was/is to start out with a plant that is sufficient size to bloom in it's next scheduled blooming season which, all 4 choices are. As I'm sure you're aware, leaf span and approximate number of leaves was not an objective that was brought up when comprising the list nor is that info stated on Oak Hill's site for these plants.

Pot sizes for these plants from Oak Hill are:

PHALAENOPSIS amboinensis 2.5"
Paphiopedilum spicerianum 2.5"-3"
KOELLENSTEINIA graminea 2.5"-3"
ASPASIA lunata 4"

[kmarch]

Originally Posted by sandra

As I'm sure you're aware, leaf span and approximate number of leaves was not an objective that was brought up when comprising the list nor is that info stated on Oak Hill's site for these plants.

If those of us outside the US are going to be able to participate on a reasonably comparable level then we need to know how advanced of a plant to buy. In order to do that we'll need to know its level of maturity and given that people mean different things by a term like "near blooming size" we'll need to know how big the plant needs to be. The best way to gauge this is by leaf span and number of leaves.

I waited until the list was narrowed down to only a few so the info would need to be posted for only a few plants instead of dozens. I'd imagine Oak Hill would be able to give a ballbark figure on these things, or I suppose the overseas folks could just wait until the American's have their plants then tell us how big they are.

So Oak Hill says they're flowering size then?

[sandra]

Originally Posted by kmarch

So Oak Hill says they're flowering size then?

Yes. The only relevance I get from what you're requesting pertains to the maturity which again, is blooming size. Is this not a good comparison for those purchasing outside the U.S.? When I speak with Oak Hill later this morning, I will ask the measurements you're requesting and post back.

[tizzycat]

I have found a nursery in the UK that has two of the choices in flowering size, but only one of the these two in near flowering size???

Another nursery in Scotland has the Den. in Flowering size or large.

May be we in the UK had better wait until some of you have received your plants.

[sandra]

Originally Posted by tizzycat

I have found a nursery in the UK that has two of the choices in flowering size, but only one of the these two in near flowering size???

Another nursery in Scotland has the Den. in Flowering size or large.

May be we in the UK had better wait until some of you have received your plants.

Not quite understanding tizzycat, sorry. They have 2 of these choices in flowering size or not?

[FLaCo]

I am a little lost as to who can join in? May I?

[sandra]

Originally Posted by FLaCo

I am a little lost as to who can join in? May I?

Yes, of course you can join in FLaCo. After you've placed your order (from the 4 choices in post #1), post back here, in this thread and let us know which plant/s you're waiting to receive.

[FLaCo]

I appreciate the speedy reply Sandra!

I ordered:
1) Phalaenopsis amboinensis
2) Paphiopedilum spicerianum

Thanks again.

[tizzycat]

Sorry Sandra I have re-checked

Deva Orchids Have two of the choices:

Aspasia Lunata - Near Flowering Size £8.00
Flowering Size £12.00

Paphiopedilum: spicerianum - FLowing Size £12.00


PLUS:
Den. loddigesii - Flowing Size £10.00
Large £12.00

It was Regal Orchids (Scotland) who had PHALAENOPSIS amboinensis

[sandra]

Great tizzycat. Flowering size and 1 of the 4 winning choices from the list.

Den. loddigesii was not a winner.

[kmarch]

Originally Posted by sandra

Is this not a good comparison for those purchasing outside the U.S.?

The problem is the terms seedling, advanced seedling, NBS, blooming size, aren't standardized and within the US and without, mean different things to different growers. To know, as you've stated, that they take blooming size to mean that it could bloom during its next flowering cycle is useful, but growers sometimes don't even agree on how big a plant has to be to bloom, so the best way to avoid all of those variables is just to get a description like leaf count and leaf span.

Originally Posted by sandra

When I speak with Oak Hill later this morning, I will ask the measurements you're requesting and post back.

Excellent, thank you.