Members participating in orchid project

[sandra]

Well, we're up and running now everyone!

Do you think we should give this project a timeline, to add a little of the competion feel into the mix here? Of course, it can remain ongoing beyond flowering but I thought reaching a goal like this might be fun?

The next step will be compiling a list of EASY growing, near blooming sized orchids to vote on! So, I guess we should (in a separate thread) start compiling our wish list for the project.

[pikevi]

I stand up to be counted too

[mayres]

Since quite a few people mentioned Oak Hill Gardens as a good source of plants and they are centrally located among all members I emailed them for a list of potential plants. Here is their response.......

Thanks for the feedback and the interest!

Your best bet might be to get something off of our wholesale list. There are some decent sized low-medium light, n.b.s. plants on that list for discounted prices. There are four pages of species plants from which to choose, starting with page 1 linked below:

Oak Hill Gardens

There are also some hybrids and mericlones on the list as well.

Phal bastianii, Phal schilleriana, Phal stuartiana and Phal equestris are four low-medium light near-blooming-size (n.b.s.) plants on the list that come to mind. These should all bloom next W-S. There are many other genera to choose from as well.

Check out the list and let me or Liese know if you have questions. We have plenty of these plants to serve the quantities you described.

What would you think Sandra of everyone going to this link and doing something like picking their top 5 choices (or something like that) and the two top vote getters we could either re-vote or even do two plants (everyone would of course have the option of doing both or either one?). Another thought. Regardless, I defer to you on this - you started the concept and once you decide on the course of action I will be behind you 100%. (honk honk )

[sandra]

And I stand behind you Mike (Honk Honk, back at ya) and everyone else. It's a group project. I'm just glad we're all so enthusiastic about this. I'm trying to get the some semblence by establishing steps in our progress before it actually begins. I'm not the commander here, just the instigator, lol.

Regarding Oak Hill Gardens, would this wholesale list be available to us even though they would be sending these orchids to more than one address?

[jerrymeola]

I do not want to repeat everything I said in the other post.

http://www.orchidgeeks.com/forum/orc...uggestion.html

Be careful of pitfalls, especially with species. Rhychostylsis giganta looks great but can take 12-14 years to flower and grows so slow you can not see the growth over several months.

I have other plants that can flower in one season [Cattleya, Dendrobium (not common den-Phals) and Encyclia]. I keep a good tract on these since they are very profitable when I can buy them small and sell flowering the next season.

I am not pushing to sell the plants since I do not intend to make anything, but trying to keep cost to a range where everyone can participate. I would also be willing to set up a control group of 15 plants treated the same to show variation in growth.

[Vivienne]

Jerry - do you have anything in the medium light realm?

[mayres]

Jerry - that would be really cool if you did this as well - to compare how a commercial grower's progress compares to the individual growths at different places. It would also be interesting to see the best and worst of the same plant under the same conditions - I have wondered about this myself. Two plants are supposed to be the same but seems like they don't always respond idendically. As Vivienne noted - I'd be interested if you had something to suggest as well............

[jerrymeola]

Mayes

Two plants never react the same.

[kellyincville]

Wow! Lots of chit chat on the orchid project front! I think I'm one of the members that selected Oak Hill originally. I just did so since they are centrally located for US members and because their reputation is generally positive. If we decide to go in another direction, I'm fine with that.

As to the plant chosen I'm pretty flexible. I would prefer no to choose a den or catt for lighting reasons (and just because they don't float my boat). I love species but if the majority goes with a hybrid, I'll go with the flow.

[pikevi]

jerrymeola: That is indeed a nice thing for you to set up a 'control group', if needed.

That would really elevate this project to that of a legitimate experiment.

Thank you.

[snowballsarebad]

Hmm this sounds like a fun idea AND a way for me to get another orchid! As long as it isn't huge...space is becoming scarce in my orchid room! Count me in, if you're still taking people! (I haven't been around in a few days, just saw all of these project threads).

[Sharyn]

For those of us in the US, I think we should consider Jerry's very generous and kind offer. His plants are always very healthy and packed and shipped in A-1 condition. We would also have the advantage of Jerry overseeing our growing project and perhaps contributing his expert advice.

I love to grow and experiment with different orchids, but my growing conditions (mostly indoors) put limitations on the types of orchids that will do well for me. I'm sure we all have the same thoughts.

Personally, I don't care what kind of orchid we decide on. I'm not looking to get into any scientific orchid studies or any competitions among us - just want to participate in having fun growing the same type of orchid and getting updates from all of you growing in many different conditions.

Any thoughts?

[Ak_Orchid]

Should we make the list into 2 groups of people? One for the US 1 for overseas. Just so we have an idea of how many people will be purchasing from different vendors.

[brookn]

What Sharyn said.

[sandra]

MEMBERS PARTICIPATING in Project #1

Ak Orchid (Anchorage, Alaska)
articuno75 (Portland, Indiana)
brookn (Missouri)
chefatplay (Vero Beach, Florida)
clarita
cytojo (Northfield Center, Ohio)
dipasquo (San Francisco, California)
evagentry (Romania)
exasperatus2002 (Allentown, Pennsylvania)
flowerchild (Ontario, Canada)
Hummer344 (San Jose, California)
jay (Palm Springs, California)
jctusa (Michigan)
kellyincville (Virginia)
mayres (Keizer, Oregon)
NancyG (Broward County, Florida)
patticake (Halfmoon, New York)
PhalPal (Placentia, California)
pikevi (Ontario, Canada)
pitik101 (Philippines/Singapore)
prisana ?? (Broward County, Florida)
Rocinante (Long Island, New York)
rodbender (Port Charlotte, Florida)
Sandra (Palm Beach County, Florida)
Sharyn (Chicago, Illinois)
shiningrock (MA.)
snowballsarebad (Fairfax, Virginia)
Tobi (Upstate New York)
Tom499 (Birmingham, United Kingdom)
Vivienne (Colorado Springs, Colorado)

[patticake]

I say go with Jerry- He has generously offered to handle the plant distribution plus a control group. Being a fellow geek, I say yay for Jerry!

[patticake]

25 so far...COOL!

[jbigio]

Count me in
Joe Bushkill PA

[patlee]

If you decide to grow a paph, I am in. For some reason I can grow phals,but not paphs. Maybe I'll learn what I am doing wrong...

[cytojo]

Add me as well.

Joanne
Northfield Center, Ohio

[prisana]

I'm not quite sure what this is about but I think I want to join. I'll try to to find the thread about this later and read what's up..thanks guys.

[shiningrock]

I'd like to be part of this project.

[patticake]

3 that I like from Oak Hills wholesale list-
Phal. schilleriana
Dend. chrysanthum
Paph. delenatii

I'm game for anything-
Is Jerry out?
I liked his ideas and plants!

[jerrymeola]

I am not out but spent the last few days answering all the private emails I got about this project.

Sharon has been asking me for a detailed list and for several types that are really out of season.

here goes

Here is a list of orchids I can supply currently at a consistent size and in sufficient quantity for this project. The comments match the photos, which I do not want posted on the forum since I do not own all the photos. I will send a zip file of the photos to anyone who requests it. Email me at jerrymeola@gmail.com All plants would be $4.00 except the species Paphs (12.50). Prioity mail is a max of $8.95 per shipment.

Since weight is not a factor a lot can be packed in the box if people want things like heavy hydro rock. I shipped 8 plants and and 3 pounds of hydro in a box this morning. I can get up to a gallon of worm tea and plants in a box. Worm tea without shipping charge is $5 for 4 ounce bottle, $10 for 16 oz, $18 quart, $25 half gallon, $42 gallon.

I do not mind putting supplies in the boxes, or additional plants.

The numbers on the names are only photo references for me and mean nothing as to the plant.

Encyclia
1 (Enc Altrovelumtum x cordigera) x cordigeria_6270.JPG These I raised two seasons ago and and 80% flowered in one year. They bloom reliabily from Easter to Mother's Day. They are very fragrant.
1a Enc. Atronecium - cordigera 'Multi' x Enc. cordigera 'Giant' 1409.JPG These are the one's I purchased for myself last week. They will look like the flower photo, but have been crossed with cordigera again which may increase the flower size. Cordegeria is about the largest Encyclia flower. They do well in pots or mounted.

Bassovola - both are easier to grow and less expensive that the nodosa species which looks just like the Little Stars - the cross with Maiki added the purple spotting and it grows fast. My best 2 inch pot put up 11 new pseudobulbs in six months. Both can flower in a year. They do well in pots, mounted or in baskets.
2 B Little Stars_5608.jpg
2 Bc (Llittle Stars x Maikai) 'Hawaii'_4962.jpg
2 Little Stars (Nodosa x Cordata)71.jpg

Cattleya hybrids - They do well in pots, mounted or in baskets.
These are all types I raise. The first tray is typical of tray size. I thought a seed cross might be fun. The colors can vary greatly but always pretty.
The Sunbow (yellow flower) crossed deckeri (purple) produced three color variations. 20 of the 50 plants bloomed within 6 months. They were frozen in the Janurary freeze and while they lost all their leaves none died. I would order new ones for the members. Size will be typical of the tray in the photo.
3 Blc Halaehi Sunbow x C deckeri_4913.jpg
3 Blc Haleahi Sunbow x C deckeri_2971.jpg
3 Blc Haleahi Sunbow x C deckeri__4461.jpg
This is the actual tray I received this week. I suggest it because it is a new hybrid unregistered and somewhat unknown as to the results we can get. Sunbow is yellow and the other parent is unstable in color but always pretty. Three color variations are pictured.
2 Blc Sunbow x (Latrcia x Pakalani)_6271.JPG
3 C latiaca 'Kodama' x Slc Pokalani Cherry 2867.JPG
3 C Laticem 'Kodami' x Slc Pokaleni 'Cherry' 1.jpg
3 C Laticem 'Kodami' x Slc Pokaleni 'Cherry' 2.jpg
The following are clones and will be very close to the photos. I sell these all the time. Right now the grower is shipping me last years crop and the size is extra large. These are all grown in 2 1/2 inch pots and all are ready for 4 inch pots. The grower is still shipping me oversized plants from last season.
photos number 3 and 4 have flowers that range from 3 1/2 to 4 1/2 inches
3 Blc. Toshie Aoki 'Carmela'.jpg
3 Blc Aloha Case x Hunting Island2_2992.jpg
3 Slc India Rose Sherwood 'Red Face'_4395.jpg
4 Blc Laura Bush.jpg
4 Blc Vida Lee 'Limelight'_4181.jpg
Photos numbered 5 have flowers that range from 6-8 inches, they are as big a plant as the others but may take longer to flower.
5 Blc. Chyong Guu Chaffinch.jpg
5 Blc Chia Lin_1101.jpg
5 Blc Erin Kobayashi 'Amy Chen' AM_AOS.jpg
5 Blc Goldenzelle 'Lemon Chiffon'.jpg
5 Blc Lucille Lundberg 'Yellow Sky'.jpg

Dendrobiums - No common Den-phals offered
6 Den Cathy Beck.jpg - Miniature Den - this photo is of a full grow plant less than three inches high that has flowered twice. It is a University of Hawaii hybrid that may not be available again for years. It was the last tray available and I received it last week so size is consistent. The photo is directly from the tray.
6 Den Cathy Beck_6274.JPG
Noblie Dendrobiums - all are Yamamoto hybrids that are about 8 inches and will flower new winter spring.
6 Den Himezakura 'Sanokku'_5395.jpg flowers as small as 3 inches
6 Den Red Emperor 'Prince'_0152.JPG - fragrant
6 Den Sea Mary 'Snow King'_1573.jpg - lots of flowers
6 Den Spring Dream 'Kumika' _1709.JPG or sometimes 'Apollo' there is not much difference in color
6 Den Upin King 'Seranade'_0196.JPG
6 Den Yellow Song 'Canary'_0132.JPG - lots of flowers
6 Den. Oriental Smiles 'Fantasy'_1107.jpg
6 Dendrobium Yellow Song 'Canary'6072.jpg - a three year old plant that looked undesirable last year and dead all summer. 80 flowers this year.

Oncidium alliance - wrong time of year for small plants
Milt. Earl Dunn_1014.JPG is very warm tolerant and the only oncidium alliance I would recommend this time of year. I have flowered them at 100 degrees in August in spite of Miltonia liking cool temps. The current supply of plants if they have not run out will overflow a 4 inch pot. Average 4-8 pseudobulbs and 18 inches high. The hanging plants are the 2 largest of ten I purchassed 3 months ago.

Phaleanopsis - I did not expect to find any this time of year. These are 4-6 inch leaf spread and will flower in 6-8 months. These I would have to order. They are almost semi-miniatures (8 inch plants 3-3 1/2 inch flowers) the flowers branch heavily
9 Phal Brother Budda x Brother Pumpkin_2080.jpg
9 Phal Naples nights x Petite rose x Glad melinda.jpg - mottled leaves as well
9 Phal Sogo Grap.jpg
9 Phal Tapei gold x Brother paradise.jpg

Papheopedilum
Species are scarce in uniform size for a project like this but delanti and barbatum are available in 2 1/2 inch pots - near blooming size, however, paphs bloom whenever there is no way to predict blooming. I do not have a photo of barbartum. These I would have to order
91 Paph_delenatii.jpg

[articuno75]

Jerry, You are the man!!!!

[flowerchild]

Jerry Sorry it's Monday and I am still trying to get back In the swing of things!!! Are these plants that you sell along with the worm tea? Do you or can you ship to Ontario Canada?

[kmarch]

It looks like none of the Aussies are playing yet? I'm waiting to see what plant is decided upon. It's difficult to tell if the species of interest will be available here. I noticed Sandra didn't post any Australian nusery possibilities. There are a couple that spring tomind:

Burleigh Park Orchids (lots of species)
Orchids on Newbold (also lots of species)

[brookn]

Hopefully we will pick something that is available there, that would be great to get some of our Aussie members involved. This project is a lot of fun, I can't wait for us to reach the plant decision.

[sandra]

Originally Posted by kmarch

I noticed Sandra didn't post any Australian nusery possibilities.

Only because nobody in Australia expressed an interest in joining in. Did you notice that?

[jerrymeola]

flowerchild

shipping to Canada requires cities and health certificates that are too expensive in small quantity, sorry

I have thought about coming to a show in Canada with enough plants to justify the expenses, but it is hard to judge plant quantity and logistics, mostly it is just a thought at this time.

[kmarch]

Originally Posted by sandra

Only because nobody in Australia expressed an interest in joining in. Did you notice that?

As is the case with me, and I suspect possibly others, I'd like to participate but I'm not sure if the plant that is chosen will be available here in Australia. I've been waiting to see if we can get the plant before signing on.