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Old 03-12-2008, 01:15 PM
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Vivienne, I like Encyclia too except I find mine needs high light levels. I'd really like to stay away from Cattleyas and alliances too! I know Dendrobiums need as high light levels so I can't understand why they all bloom for me in the same light that my Catt.s didn't. Can't figure that out?

How about a Cochleanthes? This one requires low to medium light levels.

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Old 03-12-2008, 01:44 PM
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Too true Sandra.

Cochleantes works for me. Or Cochlioda. At the Denver Show there was a Cochlioda rosea that I absolutely fell in love with. If Jerry happened to have any of those I'd be ordering with or without the project!

Oh Jerry!?!?!
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Old 03-12-2008, 01:46 PM
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Truthfully there all wonderful. We could sit and converse on which ones to get all day. I suggest listing a "TOP 5" and taking a vote from there. Someone somewhere is going to have problems with growing issues. That's not the point. The point is to grow for fun and see what outcomes are achieved in what enviroment. (I guess).

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Old 03-12-2008, 01:53 PM
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The problem is finding the top 5!
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Epi. Atroneceum 'Mother's Day'
x Enc. Cordigera 'Chocolate Violets'

I like the above that Jerry suggested especially since it is fragrant too.

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Old 03-12-2008, 02:33 PM
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I have learned from experience, so please heed my warning about keeping all 'Orchid Project' topics in ONE thread, regardless of topics. When I started the 'Epiphyte Division Thread' the same thing started to happen, meaning many threads going on at once. We eventually got it sorted out but it could have become a big mess in a hurry and important information could have been missed by many members.

Arleneg set up a WIKI thread that is linked to our original thread. This is perfect for this type of project because any participant can go into WIKI and edit and update on an ongoing basis, unlike a normal thread. (the edit buttons go away after two days) When something new happens to our division we go in and update the growth and under what circumstances we have the orchid growing.

For example! I'm not sure which thread this should be posted in, so I just picked one and hope it will get to the correct organizers.

I'm up for any plant all of you choose. I'm not even going to look at the list because I'll end up getting ten! especially Oak HIll....my weakness....
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Old 03-12-2008, 02:44 PM
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Another thought.....those of us who were fortunate enough to get one of Epiphyte's divisions have never viewed our comparisons as a 'competition.' I don't think that is the intention of this new project, especially since the spirit of this forum has always been to share and cheer each other on. If our individual plants are not the same size it shouldn't matter. What will matter is how we all choose to grow it and what our results may be.

Epi's divisions are literally being grown 11 different ways. One was sent out with a spike but all the others had nothing. We aren't even sure what it is, so, Hey, pick a culture!! The amazing thing is that all are still alive, most have new growths and apparently it didn't matter how we grew them. The first bloom is only significant so we can identify it.

Hey, here's a thought. Maybe Jerry can send us a 'mystery' orchid and we can test our skills that way???
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Old 03-12-2008, 03:45 PM
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Pick a summer bloomer (for the Northern hemisphere)
Winter for southern
1 species, 1 hybrid

I have many Encyclia (Epidendrum etc) species. I always recommend cochleata for a beginner rather than a phal. They seem to bloom no matter what you give them but they need to dry out like catts. They grow like weeds, primarily fall/ spring bloomers. They seem to need a change in conditions to do their thing. ie fall decrease in water, spring increase in light

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Old 03-12-2008, 03:59 PM
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Hi Sandra - I copied this from another 'Orchid project' thread. I think it is really important to get it under control from the start. I think there are FIVE related threads now???? To serve as an example here is the link to a similiar project. The first post includes our link to WIKI. You can take from it what you want and change/upgrade what you don't like about it.

I have learned from experience, so please heed my warning about keeping all 'Orchid Project' topics in ONE thread, regardless of topics. When I started the 'Epiphyte Division Thread' the same thing started to happen, meaning many threads going on at once. We eventually got it sorted out but it could have become a big mess in a hurry and important information could have been missed by many members.

Arleneg set up a WIKI thread that is linked to our original thread. This is perfect for this type of project because any participant can go into WIKI and edit and update on an ongoing basis, unlike a normal thread. (the edit buttons go away after two days) When something new happens to our division we go in and update the growth and under what circumstances we have the orchid growing.

For example! I'm not sure which thread this should be posted in, so I just picked one and hope it will get to the correct organizers.

I'm up for any plant all of you choose. I'm not even going to look at the list because I'll end up getting ten! especially Oak HIll....my weakness....
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Old 03-12-2008, 04:46 PM
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Sandra - someone will have to lay out the ground rules of plant selection to get this thing rolling - someone has to be a leader in the project - (honk, honk) - after reading what everyone has to say thus far why don't you start narrowing down some of the options - you will never make 100% of the members happy - though this is obviously our goal! Jerry replied correctly in another thread - if we purchase from Oak Hill we WILL get the wholesale price, but we will also pay teh $12.50 minimum shipping fee. My guess (?) is that this will also be the price for anyone who might want to purchase several since it is touted as a "minimum"? Using Jerry as a source of plants would be less cost if we can find the quality and size of plants the majority of members are interested in - most of us definately want something that can potentially bloom in a year or less.
I concur with Connie's note - one thead only while this is being determined - PLEASE.
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Old 03-12-2008, 05:08 PM
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I'm inline with getting our plants from Jerry. I'm also of the thought that we could be trying to decide for a long time. My thoughts on that are that possibly Jerry come up with a list of what he has available in the 'bloom in a year or less' frame... he create a poll and we select that way. Highest poll (say within the next 5 days or something) is the plant we go with.

Just my 2 petals worth.
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Old 03-12-2008, 05:12 PM
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If you wanna keep the seller the same, then you'll have to count anyone outside N. America out, I cant pay the CITES and phytosanitory costs for one plant

We could maybe buy the same plant here or similiar size anyway, there are many sellers in the EU who could get us the same plant, as long as its not too rare.
I Agree with you Tom, although I'm waiting for DEFRA to give me some info on the the red tape for imports - i.e. cost etc. Do you know what financial implications are involved?


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I guess we could have three different 'experiments' going at once, the US/Canada, Australia/Tasmania/NZ, and Europe/England. Each geographical group could pick what orchid they want to grow and get them at the same place. The threads will be open for all to read and learn from, like the 'Epiphyte's Division Thread' is now.

If the three groups chose different orchids we could learn a great deal in a year about how to grow these three types of orchids.
Great minds think alike Connie, I was about to suggest this but see you were already there. Also, as Tom suggests we could probably get the same plant from an EU supplier
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Old 03-12-2008, 05:22 PM
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Epi. Atroneceum 'Mother's Day'
x Enc. Cordigera 'Chocolate Violets'

I like the above that Jerry suggested especially since it is fragrant too.

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I like this suggestion too! Whatever the majority wants,- but I like this.
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Old 03-12-2008, 05:29 PM
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Another suggestion would be like what Connie said and let Jerry pick out a plant for us. I wouldn't mind that.
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Old 03-12-2008, 06:29 PM
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I like the idea of letting Jerry pick one also
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Old 03-12-2008, 07:15 PM
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Clarita - so far I have been quite happy with the LED lights. Since I have added them I was able to re-bloom my first Catt. I think the additional light really helped.
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Old 03-12-2008, 07:20 PM
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I think the mystery orchid might be fun. I would be willing to try it. The only problem is culture. We would have to agree on light/water/humidity levels. I could never do a Vanda or Masdevilla because of lack of humidity and too warm a temperature.

But I am game for anything. Let's see what happens.
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Old 03-12-2008, 07:44 PM
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Jay- Which type are you using? How much area does your's cover and at what distance? I just couldn't get the fc's right. No idea what to measure LED's with. Jeez maybe I should try them again.

I feel the same way about halogens. They were in my place so I decided to give them a 30 day trial. Some of my plants needed the extra heat up here in Chicago. I've had a "non-blooming variety" of tenuilfolia. 5 years that dang plant grew to monster size, produced nothing. The halogens did the trick. Its blooming its head off. They seem to run towards the red spectrum so when a plant is finished blooming I rotate it to 5100k cfl's.

Halogens run very warm and extremely bright.(near 5000 fc's at a distance of 4') Brisk air movement is critical
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Old 03-12-2008, 08:05 PM
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I am for that too. I believe Jerry will pick easy bloomers that most people can grow and enjoy.
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Old 03-12-2008, 08:59 PM
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Hi Sandra - I copied this from another 'Orchid project' thread. I think it is really important to get it under control from the start. I think there are FIVE related threads now???? To serve as an example here is the link to a similiar project. The first post includes our link to WIKI. You can take from it what you want and change/upgrade what you don't like about it.

I have learned from experience, so please heed my warning about keeping all 'Orchid Project' topics in ONE thread, regardless of topics.
What link, where Connie? What is WIKI?

The biggest objective right now is getting this all centralized for easy navigating and keeping the project all in one place