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Phalaenopsis amboinensis

Bought on April Fool's Day Tuesday, 4/1/2008 and received it Friday, 4/4/2008. Phal was in a 2 1/2" plastic pot that contained bark, perlite, dynarock and fancy goldflakes . The plant had 5 leaves, now 4, but looks like it will lose another leaf to stress. I repotted today in moss, perlite and charcoal and into a clay pot. I will be watching for further stress and if the moss doesn't work for me will switch to S/H.
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This plant has slapped on the breaks and went from creeping to all stop.

It's stalled, and I can't seem to kick start it. Suggestions?
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You're in too big a hurry. Give the plant a chance. I would not worry about lack of growth on a new Phal for about 6 months, and if distracted, which I often am by so many other plants, I probably would not take any notice unless the plant starts to go seriously down hill. Losing 1 out of 5 leaves is hardly mentionable. This plant is originally from Oak Hill, from the looks of the tag. I just picked up 5 of these at the wholesale price for our Silent Auctions (after extracting one for me) and they are smaller with 2 to 4 leaves in 2.25" pots.

Constantly moving plants from mix to mix is not good for them, and SH is a little rough on any plant at the start. Roots are rarely already adapted to SH.
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Mine hasn't done anything either- but I compare it to a shy child that needs time to get used to where it is before coming out of it's shell. Some just grow like the blazes! They're like people that can instantly be the life of the party! They're all as different from each other as humans are. Give the little guy some time....
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The leaves perked up and the roots look a lot better (The third leaf is actually hiding under the right side). Actually overall the plant looks healthier. Maybe she'll start to grow!
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She looks good, Jenny! Keep the faith!
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Your Phal looks gorgeous Jenny. I wish mine had arrived looking half as decent as yours. Mine has nicks all over the leaves, skinny, ugly leaves. I bought mine from Larry's Orchids. Have a look at mine and you'll feel like you hit pay-dirt!
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Just keep her green, Jenny. She'll take off when she's ready . Mine looks the same as yours. It's planted in Mike's Coir/Perlite/Charcoal mix.
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Still looks good. It has all kinds of new roots on bottom! I just wish it would put that kind of effort into a leaf or spike or something that is a little more noticeable. Oh and another thing. The leaves are at an almost "Stand at attention" attitude. You can't even see the third leaf.
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New roots are a good sign! New roots mean new growth eventually! It's gonna happen...
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Pics of what she looks like and the hidden leaf.
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She's still thinking... The plant looks really healthy,... it's just a matter of time.
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It sure is taking it's sweet time thinking!
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Not to worry.... Any day now, you'll see that tiny leaf poking out from the center and say, "that Patti sure was right!"
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It is cute. I'm sure it will sprout up something for you soon. Looks happy to me.
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Jenny, ignore it for a while, it'll do something to get your attention
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It hates me. Still no progression. I have moved it closer to the light thinking that maybe in some deranged way, this will help. It's been there now for three days and I've been keeping a close eye on it for burn. Either it will will lay and fry or it will jump and at least spit a leaf at me

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Well, there are some new roots that have grown.... I just wish that there was something a little more visible that could be seen from the top.
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At least it's not dying. I'm sure it'll do something soon. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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There will be new growth soon. Mine had some roots and then a new leaf. My second one just sat until the other day when it started to grow a root-finally! I don't think that they're supposed to bloom until late winter.- It's playing hard to get! She'll come around.
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It's still cute, more light will probably be a good thing. If it has not burned by now it probably won't. It looks fine, just being stubborn!
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OMG!!!

This thing FINALLY spit a leaf at me !!!
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They are slow growers, aren't they?
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10/21/2008 Something's happening....

Well the new leaf grew, but it didn't grow very much. The leaf is cupped and deformed? Also another one has started in the meantime.

Now the neatest thing is near the bottom of the big leaf. I noticed a "split" and took a closer look at it.

It appears to be the start of a spike. I think.?
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Congratulations Jenny, fingers crossed for a spike.
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This leaf did the same darn thing?!!!
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That's very strange. I've never seen that happen before. Odd....
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This is a very curious thing. It looks as if the first cupped leaf has stopped growing. Is the second cupped leaf still growing? I don't know what to make of this. Though cupped they look crisp and healthy. The rest of the plant looks healthy.

I see the little green nib you're referring to as a possible spike and I agree with you that it could be a spike but the plant does seem a bit small to be spiking. Mature P. amboinensis have leaf spans that are 30-40cm (12-16 inches). It would be really cool if it were a spike though. Fingers crossed.
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Both new leaves have stopped growing. I'm stumped with this one.

I'm just hoping that if a new leaf grows out, it doesn't get stuck.
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Jenny, your ambo reminds me of my pulcherrima var alba...here's a pic of it...The leaves aren't quite as cupped and small as yours, but I'm still confused as to why my leaves are small when older leaves are larger...and it's not a root issue, since the roots are great.
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BTW, have you checked your ambo's roots lately? And we need an update on that growth that looked like a spike, is it!?! is it?!?!
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Well the nub hasn't budged. It's still there. The spagh started to look so I checked the roots and they look great. I went ahead and gave it a fresh spagh repot thinking maybe the stubby leaves was an indication of nasty medium and it was trying to tell me something. LoL

But no, the nub hasn't done anything..... Poot.
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I'm determined to solve this little mystery. Lets look at some reasons plants have stunted leaves/growth:

1) bad roots - Jenny, youve verified this is not the case with your plant
2) some sort of environmental shock - like a cold shock or a severe drying out, something cultural that is big enough to stop a new growth in its tracks - anything like that happen?
3) some sort of chemical shock - something like an insecticide or even the fumes of an herbicide that can mutate a growth.
4) something genetic (?)
5) anything else not on this list?

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Nothing that I can think of. I have it on the shelf and the temps stay pretty much the same. When it does dip down, it doesn't get below 69 degrees Farenheit. So temps aren't it. As for moisture, I keep it fairly moist. No chance of a total dry out.

I don't use chemicals, so I'm stumped.

The only thing I can think of is maybe too much light. Or, not enough rest from it. Like I said I have this little lamp that shines on it and the rest of the plants on that side of the rack. None of the other plants are showing any signs like this though. All the others are growing like weeds.
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This Phal never ceases to amaze me. I have this new leaf trying to pop out of the deformity. I just hope it doesn't get stuck. The nub hasn't budged. I don't know what it is. I think it's a dormant spike. Maybe the growth of the new leaf sent it into limbo or something. I dunno. This anomaly now has 5 leaves (2 deformed) and another on the way.
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Jenny I have had some phals quit growing a new leaf when I repot them. The next leaf grows to full size and you end up with a smaller leaf under the new normal sized leaves. With two new smaller leaves, it is a head scratcher. Two different disruptions at the wrong time?

The spike will grow when it is ready to grow. The ambo is capable of blooming early winter and spring. I've had them hold for months - as long as it is green, eventually :>)

Amboinensis are not the fastest growing species around. I have ambo seedlings unflasked at the same time as another flask of bellina x sanderiana, the ambo seedlings are MUCH smaller, slower growing. They all sit next to each other, same care, yada yada, but definitely smaller.

As the saying goes, patience - your plant is green and growing :>)

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Jenny, when I repot an orchid I put it on the bench and do not pay any attention to it until something calls my attention to it, generally new growth or a bud or bloom. I am a very impatient person and had to learn to give the plant time. I still work at it. Looks like a healthy plant to me.
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Jenny, how is your ambo doing? New leaves?
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I'm sad to report that my ambo has met the great big terra cotta pot in the sky!

It was due for a repot and when I did, I think I stuck the base too far down into the bark. (I had it in all spagh.) Needless to say it got the nasty infamous rot. I did what I could and sent it to the ICU where it coded on me twice and killed over.
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