Daconil

[Gladys47]

Anyone know anything about it. Have a sick NOID onc. Can't post pic cause I'm on laptop and don't have software.Old bulbs turning brown. New growth that I was waiting on bloom spikes loose and floppy like rotting off. Good color but mushy at bottom. I have removed it. Old brown bulbs trying to put out newgrowth. It was a huge plant. I hope to save 3 pieces of it.
When I took it out of the pot it looked like it had only been taken out of ery tight 4 " pot and put in 6" with medum packed around it. From the looks I suspect this originatd the problem. Kick me for not checking! I bought this last winter and it was so healthy looking I didn't check. Notice it was turning yellow when I came bak from vacation,Thought it was too much sun. Since I got back have been on my pain meds. and just didn't check well enough in time.I'd like to try to save some of this.I THINK it was cause by a prolong problem from the way water was getting to plant due to stupid potting. Any ideas? If I can get my PC back up later I will post pics, but I'm not counting on it! It's kind of been one of those weeks. Bad news followed by bad problems!
Thanks, Gladys
PS. I also picked up a small bottle of worm tea. Maybe it will help with what is left?

[tom499]

Short and sweet: i would check the roots. they could be rotten. any sign on fungi? onc. can be left to dry out slightly before waterin again.

[Gladys47]

Yes, it looks like most of the roots are dead. But there is some new growth. Looks kind of fungusy(sp) to me, but I've never had fungus so not sure! I have daconil, bayer rose care spray, worm tea , cinnamon and peroxide. Any advice? Will those help? I don't think other people want me on the road on my meds. So I ahve to use what I have on hand or wait til weekend, which I don't think I'll be able to stand.Currently all laying on table bare root. Please help!
Thanks, Gladys

[sandra]

Read the first reply in this thread. I don't know enough to make an educated guess with what's going on with your plant but the information I found regarding my dilemma a while back, may answer some of your concerns.

P.S. Sorry about your health issues.

From Sphag Back to Bark

[Anton]

Gladys, this plant is beyond help I'm afraid.

I've just editied this sentence in. Having had as second look, you may, but a slim chance may, be able to seperate the left hand bulb with the good leaf off and try to save that piece. But it all depends on whether the mold, fungus or rot has gotten to that part as well.

[Gladys47]

You see the big blob of roots on the one? When I unpotted it Those were completely wrapped around lava rock , looked like it had been rootbound in 4" pot. must have been there a long time. Then that big mass as in the whole plant was in a 6" pot surrounded by a bark mixture! Does that look like fungus? Will daconil help? Hurt? I'm at a loss. This is the worse mess I've ever encountered in my short time growing orchids. I just loved this plant! The blooms were Green with a cat paw in the center. (maroon)
Thanks, Gladys
PS> I'll toss it if need be but I'd really like to save some if possible.

[Gladys47]

Thanks Anton! I'll try that and just keep it away from other plants. Should I spray with daconil ? Or use peroxide maybe? Sure need help here! Gladys

[sandra]

Gladys, Don't toss this plant yet. Kevin (moderator) will be back on the board shortly. He's been away for a while but will return in a few days, if not, sooner. Also Jerry (owns a huge nursery and also a moderator) checks in a lot and both guys will have the best direction for you.

5 minutes later.....

Gladys, I just looked at your plant which I didn't see prior and I must say, I'll be praying for you..... This looks pretty critical. Since you're both having health issues, better the plant than you.

[Anton]

This is the piece I was referring to.

There is a very slim chance this section may be OK, but not confident, as there does seem to be a tinge of brown on it already.

[Gladys47]

Ok. I seperated that one piece off. It doesnt appear to have any brown or squishy. So maybe it will be ok.
Gladys

[Anton]

Try sphag n bag, and with "a little luck" you may save it, but I wouldn't hold my breath just yet.

(addition)Also, if it were mine I would may be even try a little rooting hormone on it to help it along after cutting the roots down to what I have shown in the picture.

[fred]

I also think that sphag is the only chance for the plant.

As the leaves feed off the ps bulbs it may be to late.

But well worth a try.

the rest of the orchid is beyond help I am sorry to say as that is a bad case of rot.

[Cynthia, Prescott, AZ]

If the pieces you have saved have a new growth starting, don't use hormones, you will just inhibit rooting (in spite of what it says on the label). The new growths will produce roots soon, if they aren't so far along that they have already started the roots and they have already rotted off. If you have new growths but no roots, use sphag and bag for awhile until the new growths start roots.

Daconil is a non-systemic fungicide. Probably won't hurt to use it, but it is not the best for your problem. Since your problem was bacterial, a fungicide is good to prevent further problems, but if you really want to get something good for bacterial problems, get some Phyton 27. It is systemic and good for bacterial and SOME fungal problems. I have found for some really serious fungal problems I had, Thiophanate methyl (Clearry's3336, Bonomyl,...) was the best . You can get both in small bottles from Oak Hill.

[chefatplay]

Gladys, your orchid is now in good hands. If it is going to be saved, you can believe, it will be.

I hope you are in good hands, too. I hate to hear of a sister Geek in pain. I'm so sorry. I hope you are up and about without the need for medication very soon! I will be thinking about you often until I hear an update. GET BETTER!! from the geeks, from me.

[Gladys47]

Well, I did manage to get it separated. I soaked it in peroxide before I read Cynthia's post. (thank you Cynthia, and others) The rest will have to wait to morning. I have it laying on a bed of damp spagh til then. I feel pretty confident this small piece will live., but it is only one bulb. Oh well, something to look forward too. Thanks for all the kibd thoughts friends. I really need them. back is in bad trouble from yrs. of construction work. DH is a recovering cancer patient and they found new polyps that they are watching closley. Yesterday my Mom was diagnosed with cancer. I'm taking on a 10 yr old GS she was raising. My plate is full! And I need time to take care of me too. God will provide! Thanks for the kind thoughts. Don't want your pity but the prayers would be nice!
Gladys

[chefatplay]

You've got them, 10 fold!

[Jo_Pyeweed]

My prayers too, Gladys.

- Jo

[fred]

prayers and my heart goes out to you.
Your family here at orchidgeeks love you and think the world of you.

[Tobi]

Ditto Gladys. I pray all goes well with your "chid".

[sandra]

I'm not making light of this....not for one second...my interest in orchids all began because of hardships similar to what you've shared here and still continue. It's been a very healing and therapeutic hobby f