Anyone starting (or have) a collection of Phal species?

[mehitabel]

With all the new Phal species being discovered/and-or more widely available now, and all the accomplished growers here

I was wondering if anyone here has or is starting a collection of Phal species and/or Primaries they could share with us.

Anything new and wonderful you've been finding?

[Brooke]

My weakness - the species in phals. I snubbed my nose at phals in my early orchid growing because I had several white ones, a couple pink ones, a spotted purple one and a striped one. How many does one person need?

But then I fell in love with the species :>)

Doritis pulcherrima
Phal. aphrodite (2)
Phal. cornu-cervi 'Chin Yo'
Phal. cornu-cervi v. flava
Phal. phillipinensis
Phal. stuartiana 'Sogo' (2)
Phal. micholitizii (2)
Phal. amboinensis (white bloom)
Phal. amboinensis (yellow bloom)
Phal. violacea v. alba
Phal. violacea "blue" (2)
Phal. javanica
Phal. luddemaniana
Phal. bastiani (Pearl)
Phal. gigantea (2)
Phal. pulchra
Phal. bellina (4) (different crosses)
Phal. hieroglyphica
Phal. lobbii
Doritis pulcherrima v. chompornensis
Phal. fasciata
Phal. equestris (2)
Phal. schilleriana
Phal. x leucorrhoda
Phal. tetraspis
Phal. tetraspis v. speciosa
Phal. doweryensis
Phal. floresensis 'TH'
Phal. pallens 'Tejas'
Phal. celebensis

I also have several primary crosses that do not have a grex name yet and am anxiously waiting for them to bloom. This summer should be outstanding in the species/primary hybrid bloom season. The ability to bloom from previous year's spikes and new spikes always makes the bloom season special.

Brooke

[patlee]

Brooke, Do you still have a picture of your violacea 'alba'? Post it for Mehitabel if you do-- It was a beauty and to this day I am searching the shows for one. Do you know where you got it?

[Anton]

I am just starting:
Phal pulchra
violacea
violacea alba
corningianis

And have a few I am considering.

[Brooke]

Patlee here is the violacea v. alba and I got it from Big Leaf in 3-07. Two spikes last year plus three new ones this year.



For you Anton, my pulchra and all her babies living on a tree fern totem.



And an individual bloom (I could supply the world with the keikis from this plant :>)



Mehitabel got me to wondering what primary hybrids I did have now so took a trip to the g/h to see what lived there.

Phal. Joy Micholitiz - Ludde
Phal. modesta x javanica (in spike)
Phal. Jennifer Palermo (tetraspis x violacea "blue' - in spike)
Phal. mchiolitzii x celebensis (in spike)
Phal. tetraspis x hieroglyphica
Phal. Alice Millard (stuartiana x amboinensis)
Phal. Taida Sunshine (equestris x tetraspis) (3)
Phal. Penang Girl
Phal. Princess Kaiulani (3)

Also tetraspis x gigantea and bellina x sanderiana seedlings which I unflasked last summer. A couple might bloom this year but not holding my breath on it.

I also have quite a few 3/4 species crosses where a primary was bred back to another species.

Brooke

[kid a]

Out of 9 plants four of mine are phals they are:
Brother Sarah Gold
Regal Bells x Brother Fortune
Long Pride Snow crane
Magic Kiss

[Cynthia, Prescott, AZ]

I am charmed by the small sized flowers and the compact plants of many of these species. I have a mannii (boxallii), and a mannii v. flava which I have not seen bloom yet. I am not much into bars and spots unless they are particularly attractive (personal, I know), so I may decide to put the mannii on the silent auction for what I paid for it. I have bought all the varieties of equestris that Baldan has. I am especially happy with these. Also picked up an (equestris x venosa) 'Copper State' HCC/AOS from a local hybridizer of Phals. It is a compact plant, but a bit bigger than equestris. I just got an established blooming keiki of Brother Sandra 'Splash' HCC/AOS, and the flowers are more beautiful than the pictures. Not a primary I am sure, but it has small flowers, a multibrancher, and it looks like it will be a compact plant.

[kid a]

Out of curiosity there seems to be a lot of different phals with Brother in the name. Is there any kind of connection between all of them other than that they are phals or the ones that are crosses? My regal Bells X Brother Fortune looks very similar to my Brother Sarah Gold, the same colors are in the leaves just a little bit different of a pattern. Does any one know if that means anything, are all Brother types similar in color or is it just a name?

[Anton]

Excellent Brooke, love the little pulchra, never thought of mounting it.

My to get list includes:
Phals: bellina, wilsonii, amabilis, and chibae.

[Anton]

Brooke, here was my favourite pulchra, which decided to cark it a week before I was going to bench the b@#%y thing last year.

It had 4 flowering buds, the most ever, and threw a couple of keikis which also decided to "legs up in the air syndrome." So just wondering whether it wasn't a good plant.

Hopefully the seedling I now have will behave properly as it is from good stock.

[brookn]

Hmmm, I thought I posted, but I don't see it. I will post again. I am starting to lean toward species in general, but I would love to have as many Phal. species as possible.
Here's my list:

Phal. amboinensis
Phal. bellina
Phal. equestris (peloric)
Phal. stuartiana

Phal. Penang Girl (primary hybrid violacea x venosa)
Phal. gersenii (natural hybrid violacea x sumatrana)

I have my eye on a few, I have looked for a good pulchra for a while (I was inspired by Antons croaked pulchra), lobii, violacea v. alba, sumatrana..........I want them all . I am slowly collecting, my goal is to get quality plants, and not just to buy whatever I see first. Of course going to school and raising kids means that saving for a long time for some things is in order lol.

[HawaiiMiki]

The prefix, "Brother" is the trade name from Brother Orchids in Taiwan. All of the crosses are given that prefix to signify who made the cross.

My species "collection" is fairly small. There are Phal:

fuscata (many, and available for sale);
florescensis;
bellina;
violacea;
gigantea;
lobbi (several, and available for sale);
stuartiana 'Larkin Valley'; and
appendiculata.

Might be forgetting some.

[mehitabel]

Well, lots of species fans out there. Congratulations, everyone. They really are special. I have only a few, and a couple of primaries. But I'm working on it.

Patlee, Norman's Orchids has a bellina alba they are offering right now. Don't know if that qualifies as a vio for you.

Brooke, that pulchra with all its keikis is just charming. And only one of a really impressive list of species and primaries. I hope you'll be posting pictures of them as the spikes come into flower. Some of the primaries I've never even seen pictures of.

How long have you been collecting them, to have such a long list, anyway?

[Brooke]

Mehitabel I became fascinated with the species about two years ago. I still have a few on my list that I really need :>)

Anton here is a link to a mounted luddemaniana that keikis a little too. You can show your new pulchra what it has to achieve.

( Link Edited reason linked to another Forum )

I'm seriously considering taking the time to unmount my pulchra and use a big piece of cork bark. I figure a couple of long days, wire cutters and the patience of Job I can get it off the tree fern pole :>)

Cynthia is the first name of your local lybridizer Eric?

Brooke

[Cynthia, Prescott, AZ]

Yes, and his last name is even shorter. Gee, wouldn't it have been nice to have such a short name? Think how fast you could sign your name.

[Brooke]

Lucky you Cynthia! He has been showing some wonderful hybrids he has created on Big Leaf lately and pictures of some of his awarded plants too. I could happily go shopping at his g/h :>)

Brooke

[Anton]

Brooke, what an incredible specimen.

Pity the pulchra isn't fragrant.

[Bird Song Farm]

I have a small collection of phal species and primary hybrids started. The one I'm watching right now is P. hiero which has a spike. Looks like only one blossom but it is a very young plant, not much more than seedling size.
My peloric equestris "Zuma" has 4 keikis so I think it is happy, the Be Tris is about to bloom, maybe in a day or so....etc. I believe I have all the species plants Baldan's offers and some of they primaries.
It is fun to collect the species, most are small and I have good luck mounting them on cork bark.
Al

[kmarch]

brooke, I think your phal violacea alba just might have award potential. I can't tell how big the flowers are but the form, colour (as expressed on-screen) and floriferousness is very good. It might be worth checking out to see if other violacea albas have been awarded and if so what their characteristics were.

[Brooke]

Kevin high praise from the judge - thank you.

I did check OrchidWiz and the award info. I measured the bloom last year and it was in the ballpark of the latest awarded alba. I have reduced the amount of light it receives to elongate the spikes and to increase the bloom size even more. I will have five blooming spikes this year and hopefully even more the next.

The color is very true on my monitor and it is my favorite phal to date. It is an absolutely gorgeous plant, from the foliage, to the bloom, to the fragrance :>)

Brooke

[Vivienne]

Way to go Brooke!!

[Vivienne]

I'll add my little list of species Phal.

Phal. equestris - currently blasting buds... but have increased watering in hopes of a bloom.
Phal. stuartiana - thought it was lost to root rot... but it is FINALLY working on a new leaf! YEAH!!
Phal. amboinensis - mounted on cork and doing nothing. Might be changing the mount or potting it up.

[PhalPal]

Of all my Phals, those with 'Brother' in the name are very compact with shorter spikes. The growers must use these to cross with when looking for a smaller plant.

[Brooke]

Vivienne all mottled leaved species need to dry out more than a "regular" phal. Yes, very prone to root rot if kept too moist.

It is not amboinensis growing season just yet. One of mine bloomed in late winter, I removed the spike and it is just sitting there. I expect it to start growing new leaves, soon.

I wish I had a suggestion for the equestris but I don't.

Brooke

[exhausted]

what a beauty.how i hope i can have one of these

[Anton]

Well my latest list is :

violacea
violacea alba
corningiana
leuddemanniana
bellina
pulchra
not sure whether my Kingidium deliciosum can be counted, as these were referred to as Phals.

[BillC]

Great thread!! Very informative and interesting. One question for all contributers which will be personal preference, 'Which of all your species Phals has the most fragrance ?'

Bill

[Brooke]

Bill my most fragrant are violacea, bellina and tetraspis.

Brooke

[exasperatus2002]

(banging my head on the wall) Will my wish list ever stop growing? AHHHHHGGHHH Its alive!!

[psyc1210]

Here is my list of species, and primary hybrids.

Phal lindenii 'Mendenhall' X pulcherrima
Phal schilleriana
Phal hieroglyphica
Phal amboinensis
Phal tetraspis (4)
Phal violacea var coerulea
Phal bellina X sanderiana 'PL'
Phal gigantea
Phal/Doritis pulcherrima var alba
Phal pulchra
Phal gigantea X tetraspis
Phal braceana (3)
Phal lueddemanniana 'Woodlawn'
Phal cornu-cervi
Phal sumatrana
Phal violacea 'Blue July 4th' X 'Amazing Grace'
Phal minus

[LouisW]

When I first started growing orchids I turned my nose to the 'normal' Phals and went on search for more exotic orchids (of which there is no shortage), but I have recently begun to appreciate the beauty of Phals.

Let my collection begin!

Phal. stuartiana
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[cassier]

I have:
equestris
schilleriana purpurea

[PhalPal]

I soooo need to make a list of all my orchids!!! I will be rearranging them for winter and finishing my orchid room soon. It will be a great opportunity to list them as I go!

Someone MAKE me do this please!!!!

[LouisW]

Phal gigantia is next on my list because I googled it I saw a mature plant. So cool.

[norris]

I have a few,
Phal. amboinensis
Phal. bastiani
Phal. equestris
Phal. stuartiana
Phal. schilleriana var. purpurea
I'm planning on adding Phal. cornu-cervi, Phal. bellina, Phal. violacea

[PhalPal]

Phal bellina is one of my favorites because it blooms when it wants to, not following any set 'season'. They are always nice little surprises. Even though they have only one of two flowers their fragrance is just lovely. And....it has pretty little leaves to boot!

[hera]

I just got a Phal violacea var coerulea. Does anyone have any growing advice for this one? It's a baby and it seems to like really high humidity.

[Brooke]

You can grow a violacea sitting next to your hybrids and it will do great.

Brooke

[hera]

I hope so. Yours was beautiful!

[kid a]

oh i'm glad this thread came back up, lol. I got a very very small Pha. leuddemanniana 'Chree Hill' a few months back so now I have one species, lol! We'll see how it goes it hasn't done anything since i got it, lol.

[patticake]

Phal. amboinensis and Phal. gibbosa are my 2 Phal. species. Not exactly a collection, is it? I love 'em though!

[poozcard]

i have
Phal. stuartiana (2)
Phal. schilleriana (2)
Phal. bellina
Phal. violacea (2)
Phal. cornu-cervi
Phal. lowii

wishlist
Phal. gibbosa
Phal. lobbii


Phal.

[Schlyne]

I have

Phal. bastianii (seedling)


I want to acquire others in the future. If it's a "mini" it's on my Basically if a phal has brightly colored differently shaped mini flowers, I like it. (That doesn't mean I don't like a pure white either..I drooled over one of those the other day) I'm not as big fan of the standard moth shape for some reason most of the time.

[whalloper]

Originally Posted by Vivienne

Phal. equestris - currently blasting buds... but have increased watering in hopes of a bloom.

I was having a similar problem with my equestris. My flowers would open, but fall off before the next one opened! I increased watering and I now have 4 flowers open. I think they are extra sensitive to dehydration (at least for me). I have mine in bark/coco but am strongly considering switching to fine bark, or moss. Does anyone else notice this? Good luck!

[Brooke]

I can't believe how many more species I've added since this thread was started. And I still don't have them all

Brooke

[hera]

Update:

I traded the violacea, it was not enjoying my dryer conditions. But since the posting of this thread I've become more interesded in species. Thanks to Brooke's beautiful pictures.

So far I have the following: pulchra, luddemanniana, bastiani, manni, venosa, amboinensis, stuartiana, and pulcherrima.

I really want to get hyroglyphica and cornu-cervi.

[Schlyne]

I've added Phal. equestris to my species collection.

[griffin]

Here's a few I've managed to get hold of lately:
P. stuartiana
P. schilleriana
P. cornustris (primary hybrid cornu-cervi x equestris)
P. intermedia (another primary hybrid, does occur naturally)
P. mannii
P. bastianii
P. violacea v. coerulea

I find them to be a nice complement to my big hybrids - they provide something a bit different!

[syndywindy]

Just seeing this thread for the first time. Don't know how I missed it. My species list:

Phal. Leucorrhoda x Phal. Leucorrhoda
Phal. pulchra
Phal. Stuartiana x self
Phal. violacea Maylasian x self
Phal. violacea 'Tequila Sunset' x self

[psyc1210]

My updated species list:

amboinensis
braceana 'Leesburg' (3)
corningiana 'Fernbrook' AM/AOS X 'Red Rebel'
cornu cervi
gigantea
hieroglyphica
inscriptiosinensis
lueddemanniana 'Woodlawn'
minus
modesta var coerulea
pulcherrima var alba
pulchra
schilleriana
tetraspis (2)
speciosa 'C#1' (2)
violacea var coerulea
violacea 'Blue July 4th' X 'Amazing Grace'
zebrina

Primary hybrids:
lindenii X pulcherrima
Lovely Kid (lobbii x parishii)
bellina X sanderiana 'PL'
gigantea X tetraspis
Kenanga (amboinensis var flava X javanica var alba)



On the way I have a bastianii and a lindenii....too many that I still want...

[mayres]

I can't believe I didn't see this thread when it was started AGES AGO! I've gathered a dozen species myself since the start of this thread (all as seedlings) and am enjoying the process of seeing them grow and about half of them blooming this season. They certainly have a character and charm that is quite unique in comparison to most of the hybrids.