Visit our other forums: Gardening Forums Bonsai Forum Citrus Forum Fat Cat Forum Appraisers Forum Disney Forum Hawaii Forum Vegetarian Forum Frugal Forum


Go Back   Orchid Forum Orchid Care > Orchid Care > Orchid Care Cultivation

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 08-12-2006, 02:10 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 160
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
atcrosby is on a distinguished road
Unhappy Wrinkled Pseudobulbs

I have both a Brassia and an Oncidium with some fairly large Pseudobulbs when I acquired them. I have had them for about 8 weeks and have noticed they appear to be developing wrinkles.

Both plants have not lost their flowers although the Brassia is starting to. I water them once per week by soaking them for 1-2 hours in a Dynagro / Superthrive mixture. The area they are in retains a 50-60% humidity level and all the other orchids (phals and cattelya are doing great in this location)

The question is am I probably not watering enough? How do you get them to recharge quickly without overwatering the roots? Both plants sit on top of a humidity tray and the Brassia has now run a root into the collection tray.

I love the flowers this type of orchid produces but am concerned that I may be killing them through sheer stupidity.

Thanks.
__________________
Tom
Richardson, Texas
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 08-13-2006, 01:23 AM
greg_s's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Quakertown, PA
Posts: 133
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
greg_s is on a distinguished road
actually, it has been my experience that wrinkles in the pseudobulbs are due to the age of the bulbs and not necessarily mistreatment. How do the leaves look?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 08-13-2006, 09:47 PM
jerrymeola's Avatar
Super Moderator
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SW Florida - Fort Myers
Posts: 2,077
Images: 478
Thanks: 0
Thanked 169 Times in 72 Posts
jerrymeola has a reputation beyond reputejerrymeola has a reputation beyond reputejerrymeola has a reputation beyond reputejerrymeola has a reputation beyond reputejerrymeola has a reputation beyond reputejerrymeola has a reputation beyond reputejerrymeola has a reputation beyond reputejerrymeola has a reputation beyond reputejerrymeola has a reputation beyond reputejerrymeola has a reputation beyond reputejerrymeola has a reputation beyond repute
I would not worry either. Wrinkled pbulbs on brassia are common. They will put out new growth that will look excellent for a year or two and then wrinkle
__________________
jerry
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 08-21-2006, 12:20 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 13
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
jumbojimmy is on a distinguished road
isn't wrinkle on the p.bulb is caused by not enough watering? i heard from somewhere in the net that the bulb is to store water so you don't need to water the plant to much, but once it started to wrinkle up it is the indication that it's really thirsty.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 08-21-2006, 01:34 AM
eikon's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: simi valley, ca
Posts: 30
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
eikon is on a distinguished road
under watering can cause wrinkling, but, so can over watering, the most likely cause, age or parentage
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 09-12-2006, 02:37 AM
Luci's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 52
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Luci is on a distinguished road
I have a Beallara that is doing the same thing, does this hold true for this orchid as well? I was worried also that I watering too much or not enough. Are you supposed to soak them in water?? I just water mine like I do my phals.

It has 5 large pbulbs and 4 new growths. It is blooming right now but later I need to divide and repot...which is another concern...how do I divide a Beallara. This is my first one and I just keep leaving it in the small pot as I am unsure how to divide it.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 09-12-2006, 03:28 PM
mayres's Avatar
V.I.P Member
PhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucket
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Keizer, Oregon
Posts: 2,319
Images: 2
Thanks: 10
Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts
mayres is a glorious beacon of lightmayres is a glorious beacon of lightmayres is a glorious beacon of lightmayres is a glorious beacon of lightmayres is a glorious beacon of lightmayres is a glorious beacon of light
The purpose of soaking is to give the media (such as bark) an opportunity to absorb more water than it would by just pouring the water straight through. This sometimes is helpful especially with NEW bark. One should be sure to periodically run water through as well to reduce accumulation of mineral salts.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 09-12-2006, 04:35 PM
orchid126
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
If you're soaking your pots for one or two hours then I doubt if it's underwatering, unless the medium dries out rather quickly. How dry do you let the medium get before watering again? I water my oncidium a lot less, but I do water more frequently, like twice a week.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 09-16-2006, 10:49 AM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 160
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
atcrosby is on a distinguished road
The planting medium is medium sized wood bark with charcoal mixed in. I am letting it sit in a week fertilzer / superthrive solution for an hour to allow the bark to absorb moisture.

I have notices the medium is not drying as quickly as it used to. This is also the issue with other orchids in the same medium. I think the seasonal change is affecting the humidity levels and the bark retains moisture much longer.
__________________
Tom
Richardson, Texas
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 09-17-2006, 02:12 AM
Cynthia, Prescott, AZ's Avatar
Super Moderator Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Arizona
Posts: 2,687
Thanks: 0
Thanked 8 Times in 5 Posts
Cynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond reputeCynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond reputeCynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond reputeCynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond reputeCynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond reputeCynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond reputeCynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond reputeCynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond reputeCynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond reputeCynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond reputeCynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond repute
This is why you can not water successfully on a schedule. Cooler temps or higher humidity, as when a storm passes thru will lengthen the drying time, even changes in air movement. This is why, if you learn to lift the plant and judge watering by the weight of the pot, you will be in a much better position when the mix starts to break down and hold too much water. You will know there is a problem by the fact that the plant is taking longer and longer to dry out. Cynthia
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
wrinkled pseudobulbs greg_s Newbie Questions 6 10-19-2006 02:43 PM
Wrinkled soft leaves on flowered-out Phals? bellc Newbie Questions 6 06-20-2006 06:44 AM
No sheaths on my Obdrs. pseudobulbs Lakshmi Orchid Care Cultivation 2 05-15-2006 12:11 AM
shriveled pseudobulbs, salvagable? Lucinda Brown Newbie Questions 1 05-08-2006 08:06 AM


vBskin developed by: CreationLab



plants online
Send Flowers


Free Vote Caster from Bravenet.com Free Vote Caster from Bravenet.com


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.1.0
Orchid Forum
Find the Perfect Gift on eBay!