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Old 10-08-2008, 09:59 PM
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One week ago I took two rootless plants and began an experiment with them in live sphagnum that I received from Missann.

I have a Neofinetia falcata 'Shutennou' and a piece of Paph. Dollgoldi that broke off of the main plant. Both of them had no roots. The Neo has been in decline over the last year.

I put them on top of live growing sphagnum moss because I heard it is a miracle worker. I know this is not a controlled experiment, but I am getting results from two different species in only a week. I think I will let the photos do the rest of the talking.
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Old 10-08-2008, 11:08 PM
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Wow!! How cool. I'm rooting a little Angraecum on some moist "dead" sphag, and it's working quite well also. I usually don't like sphag, but it has its place, doesn't it? The live sphag looks so much prettier!
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Old 10-09-2008, 12:46 AM
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This is really cool and the results are just wow!
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Old 10-09-2008, 12:54 AM
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That is amazing! Now you got more plants!!!
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Cool!

Is there potting media under the moss?
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Old 10-09-2008, 03:52 AM
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That's pretty neat! Didn't realize live sphag was so green!
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What an attractive way to rescue rootless babies! How does one obtain live spag moss? and did you cover the whole thing, or does the spag alone provide enough humidity?
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Old 10-09-2008, 07:25 PM
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Fishmom - I was given this live sphag from Missann on this forum. She bought it off of Ebay. The whole container is in a mini indoor greenhouse. That keeps the humidity around 70-80% and temps between 75-83F.

Arlene - The Sphagnum is growing in very wet 1:1 mix of peat/peralite. I water daily with RO water. Sphag is a bog plant that likes it very wet. It shows signs of dehydration if I forget to water it for a couple of days.
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Thanks for the tip. I will try that with my neo that has no roots left. I have it in the dried moss now but will put it in the live moss asap. Hope it's not too late.
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I will have to see if I can get my hands on some live moss. Very interesting Jay.
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Old 10-10-2008, 11:07 AM
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Thank You so much for the pics.I have also found Sphagnum(spagnum fuscum or Sphagnum fallax I think) useful to induce and accelerate root growth.It was growing in moist areas and on clay pots outside my house.I found its use from an article in orchid geeks.. I just kept it in touch with the broken roots in a medium of charcoal and broken pieces of fire bricks.Now the spag is living happily with my children.
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Jay,

As much as I would like some live sphag moss, I'm choosing not to buy any. It'll die in my care. Therefore, it won't be any help for some of the orchids I have in mind...

Thanks for sharing the pic and moss' potting medium.
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Old 10-13-2008, 02:26 PM
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Jay, I would love to follow the progress of these plants, please can you keep us updated.

Thank you so much.
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Update.

It has now been in the live sphagnum moss for about 3 weeks, and I think it likes it. Check out the two older roots get "fuzzy" and it has started another new root. They are growing so fast. At this rate I may be able to put it back into S/H in a month or two.


The Neofinetia is not responding as fast, but is still doing very well. I will update if it takes off as well.
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Old 11-11-2008, 04:04 PM
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Update

Ok, it has been about 6 weeks in the live sphagnum moss. At this point, I don't think I will be able to remove it. The roots are very deep and intertwined with the moss and it is growing like mad.

It finished growing out the last leaf and started a new one. I think I am just going to continue growing it like this to see what happens.

First 2 photos are of roots.
3rd photo is of whole plant.

The Neo is not growing as fast, but is still alive and kicking.
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Jay that is a very good example of why I always say using live sphagnum moss is great
the sphag to me looks a little to wet that may lead to root rot I would back the watering off slightly and bring it to moist other than that good job
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Old 11-11-2008, 04:53 PM
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wow, this is a fantastic post!

goes to show what a little bit of Sphag can do

just curious - can you take any regular bought store Sphag and 'bring it back to life'? or is the only alternative to buy it live?

i might consider putting a Paph in this scenario - do you think this would be advisable for this plant (i've heard pro/con arguments for this)?
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Fred - it looks so wet because it was just watered before that picture. It drains really fast and will be fine.

Amersault - You can grow live sphagnum from dried sphagnum. To do so get a pot and fill it with a sphagnum peat/peralite mix at a 1:1 ratio. Chop some dried sphagnum tops as fine as you can get it and spread it over the mix. Put under bright light, good humidity, and keep it wet (put the pot in a tray of pure water)
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Amersault - You can grow live sphagnum from dried sphagnum. To do so get a pot and fill it with a sphagnum peat/peralite mix at a 1:1 ratio. Chop some dried sphagnum tops as fine as you can get it and spread it over the mix. Put under bright light, good humidity, and keep it wet (put the pot in a tray of pure water)
time to embark on another experiment
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