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Old 07-18-2008, 06:21 PM
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I've had both of these plants since Jan.'07 and they have not rebloomed in all that time. I'm not really sure are these paphs. or phrags.? Don't want to sound tooo dumb, but sometimes this is confusing to me. Also any ideas as to why they haven't rebloomed?
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:02 PM
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They look like Paphs to me. I have several Paphs and they are growing but haven't rebloomed yet. Are yours putting out new leaves? If so maybe it isn't their time to bloom. I know that Paphs will bloom when they want.

Hopefully Kevin will add some input as he is the wonderful Paph guy!
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:05 PM
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Thanks April, that makes me feel better. Yes they do have some new leaves.
Is this a phrag. then?
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:28 PM
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That still looks like a Paph. What do the leaves look like? I guess you didn't get any names on these?
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They look like Paphs to me. They bloom off the new growth when that is mature. If your new growth hasn't gotten as big as the growth was that the other blooms came out of, then you need to wait until the new growth is about as big as the old section was. Did that make sense? Good luck, and just keep making them happy. The reward will come in time!
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All 3 of the pics you've posted are Paphiopedilum. They all three look to be hybrids which willmake further ID impossible. I can tell you that the first picture in post #1 is a Maudiae-type paph, thesecond one in post #1 has Paph spicerianum in it, possibly it is half Paph spicerianum, and the paph pictured in post #3 is a Paph delenatii hybrid, more specifically, a Paph delenatii crossed with something from the Cochlopetalum Section.

The difference between Paphs and Phrags....well the difference that is easiest to explain is that they come from different parts of the world. Phrags come from South America, Paphs from South East Asia. but unfortunately that doesn't do much good when you're looking at a picture or holding a plant in your hand. The next most easily described difference is probably the leaves. Phrag leaves (with one notable exception) are fairly "grassy" meaning somewhat narrow-ish, evenly green, and pointed. Some phrag leaves are broader (besseae and its hybrids). Paph leaves are rarely pointed and while some are evenly green (mostly the warm-growing multiflorals and the cool growing complex) many are heavily (and I might add, delightfully) patterned. When it comes to the flowers, most phrags are green/white/brown. The notable exceptions are besseae (orange, red, yellow), xerophyticum (white), schlimii (pink), fischeri (dark pink), kovachii (huge flowers, very dark pnk/lavender), and andreettae (pastel pink). This means that phrags have a more restricted colour palete than Paphs. Also there aren't as many phrag species. Paphs come in an enormous range of colours.
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I did get a name tag in the last one, but only the last word was readable, delentaii. So I'm pretty sure I have a phrag here somewhere. I'll keep looking and posting pictures.
Thanks for the help.

Patti, that made perfect sense and made me feel much better about it having not bloomed yet.
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Sassismom,

Perhaps you didn't read my post above completely. I indicated your orchid is not a Phrag, but it is a Paph,
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...and the paph pictured in post #3 is a Paph delenatii hybrid, more specifically, a Paph delenatii crossed with something from the Cochlopetalum Section.
The species, delenatii (note spelling) is not a phrag species but it is a paph species. However I reiterate, your orchid is not a species it is a hybrid with delenatii in it.
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Old 07-19-2008, 11:47 AM
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I did read it Kevin, thank you. I was only saying that was all I had read on the tag and therefore did not know which it was before you posted.
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