Go Back   Orchid Forum Orchid Care > Orchid Care > Orchid Care Cultivation


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03-26-2008, 11:23 PM
psyc1210's Avatar
V.I.P Member
PhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucket
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 3,203
Thanks: 2,217
Thanked 2,426 Times in 1,070 Posts
psyc1210 is on a distinguished road
Paph question....

I have been really getting into wanting another Paph....but I want one with corkscrew petals. I know Paph sanderianum has the corkscrew petals, but I'm afraid that is just too big for my growing space. What others are out there that have petals that corkscrew like that?

So far I have found one cross that I thought was pretty, but haven't been able to find it for sale. I found Paph philippinense X laevigatum...
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 03-26-2008, 11:28 PM
jay's Avatar
jay jay is offline
V.I.P Member Photobucket
PhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucket
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Palm Springs, CA ; Zone 15
Posts: 2,920
Thanks: 298
Thanked 725 Times in 329 Posts
jay is on a distinguished road
The very long corkscrew Paphs tend to be larger multi-florals. Some of them can be challenging, like Paph sanderianum.

Do they have to be long, or will shorter ones work?

I like this link when looking at species and primary hybrids. They also have some complex hybrids.

Some of the Choclopetalum Paphs have small petals with a nice twist.

Hopefully this will help with your search.
__________________
Jay
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 03-26-2008, 11:36 PM
psyc1210's Avatar
V.I.P Member
PhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucket
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 3,203
Thanks: 2,217
Thanked 2,426 Times in 1,070 Posts
psyc1210 is on a distinguished road
WOW, thank you so much for that link Jay.

I found the one I want for sure. I want the Paph parishii.....or maybe the Paph philippinense var roebbelenii. I can't make up my mind yet. But really, thanks so much for that link.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 03-27-2008, 02:05 AM
kmarch's Avatar
Chief Of Staff
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 12,805
Images: 1
Thanks: 3,854
Thanked 5,300 Times in 2,958 Posts
kmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally Posted by psyc1210 View Post
I have been really getting into wanting another Paph....but I want one with corkscrew petals. I know Paph sanderianum has the corkscrew petals, but I'm afraid that is just too big for my growing space. What others are out there that have petals that corkscrew like that?
There are a couple of different sections of paphs that contain species with "corkscrew" petals. One is the Cochlopetalum Section which contains twisted short petals. Species include:
Paph primulinum
Paph primulinum var. purpurescens
Paph glaucophyllum
Paph victoria-reginae
Paph victoria-mariae
Paph liemianum

There are a few paphs with longer twisted petals in the Corypetalum Section. These include:
Paph philippinense
Paph philippinense var. robelenii
Paph sanderianum (as you already know)
Paph glanduliferum
Paph wilhwlminae (somewhat twisted, not as much as others)
Paph parishii
Paph dianthum

The sizes of the species I have listed above ranges from borderline miniature (Paph primulinum) all the way up to BIG (Paph sanderianum) and in between as well.

There are zillions of hybrids. Look through the slipperorchids.info link Jay provided for pics of hybrids containing the above listed species. Slipperorchids.info is great for pictures and hybrids but not very good for names as it uses a lot of obsolete synonyms for some reason.

I have quite a number of corkscrew species and hybrids so feel free to ask lots of questions.

Cheers!

Quote:
Originally Posted by psyc1210 View Post
So far I have found one cross that I thought was pretty, but haven't been able to find it for sale. I found Paph philippinense X laevigatum...
Paph parishii is one of my favorite paphs. It probably won't be easy to find though. Paph laevigatum is an obsolete synonym for Paph philippinense so Paph philippinense X laevigatum = Paph philippinense.
__________________

Last edited by kmarch; 03-27-2008 at 02:08 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 03-27-2008, 03:03 AM
psyc1210's Avatar
V.I.P Member
PhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucket
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 3,203
Thanks: 2,217
Thanked 2,426 Times in 1,070 Posts
psyc1210 is on a distinguished road
Kevin-

Is the Paph philippinense var robelenii a large plant, medium, small?
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 03-27-2008, 03:11 AM
kmarch's Avatar
Chief Of Staff
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 12,805
Images: 1
Thanks: 3,854
Thanked 5,300 Times in 2,958 Posts
kmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond repute
Paph philippinense and its var. robelenii are quite variable. They can be big, maybe up to about 2 ft in diameter or they can be small, a foot or less, and all be flowering size. I had a var. robelenii that flowered on a plant that was only about 6-7 inches in diameter but that's not typical and the plant proceded to die quickly after flowering. From what I have seen, they are more typically around 18 inches or so. The inflorescence can be up to about 2 ft. Tomy way of thinking that puts them into the medium size plant category.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 03-27-2008, 03:18 AM
psyc1210's Avatar
V.I.P Member
PhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucket
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 3,203
Thanks: 2,217
Thanked 2,426 Times in 1,070 Posts
psyc1210 is on a distinguished road
And why is it hard to find Paph parishii? I read that it's hard to grow from seed...is that correct?
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 03-27-2008, 03:33 AM
kmarch's Avatar
Chief Of Staff
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 12,805
Images: 1
Thanks: 3,854
Thanked 5,300 Times in 2,958 Posts
kmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond repute
To begin with, all paphs (phrags too) are grown from seed. For some reason they can not be cloned, though there is a guy in South Australia who has apparently cloned a couple of hybrids.

I personally do not know if Paph parishii is hard to grow from seed to flowering because I have never done that. I do have a few seedlings now and they are easy so far but very slow growing and small, far from flowering.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 03-27-2008, 03:36 AM
psyc1210's Avatar
V.I.P Member
PhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucket
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 3,203
Thanks: 2,217
Thanked 2,426 Times in 1,070 Posts
psyc1210 is on a distinguished road
Where did you find your seedlings of Paph parishii? I did do some searching earlier for that, and really didn't find anything at all.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 03-27-2008, 04:41 AM
kmarch's Avatar
Chief Of Staff
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 12,805
Images: 1
Thanks: 3,854
Thanked 5,300 Times in 2,958 Posts
kmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond reputekmarch has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally Posted by psyc1210 View Post
Where did you find your seedlings of Paph parishii?
I bought mine here in Australia from a nursery that is no longer running.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 03-27-2008, 11:15 AM
psyc1210's Avatar
V.I.P Member
PhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucket
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 3,203
Thanks: 2,217
Thanked 2,426 Times in 1,070 Posts
psyc1210 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by kmarch View Post
I bought mine here in Australia from a nursery that is no longer running.
Darnit! haha
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
My current list of kids jbigio Orchid Growing List 3 07-31-2008 12:18 AM
Vivienne's Orchid Growing Post Vivienne Orchid Growing List 1 02-17-2008 04:25 PM
Paph growth question Vivienne Orchid Care Cultivation 11 10-13-2007 07:36 AM
Paph. Pinocchio question boxerfan Orchid Care Cultivation 3 07-25-2007 12:17 PM






Free Vote Caster from Bravenet.com Free Vote Caster from Bravenet.com

If you have pests, you might need to call an Orkin pest exterminator to help keep your flowers pest free.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0
Orchid Forum
florist
Send Flowers www.proflowers.com/best-sellers-BSL - fresh flower delivery from proflowers.com. our flowers are shipped fresh from the fields ready to burst open into a magnificent display of color.
vBskin developed by: CreationLab