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Old 03-12-2008, 08:23 PM
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I've been blessed despite my ignorance...

Even though I didn't think I would have any blooms of my own this year, I have been blessed. Both of my vandas continue to bloom repeatedly. My Ascocenda 'Vermillion" is finally sending out a spike after buying it in the summer. It was in pretty bad shape but the summer humidity has done it wonders.

I have two phals spiking, a NOID and my Brother Little Yellow Boy. My Lonnie Morris is spiking, too, I think, but the areas are too little to tell just yet.

I also have just purchased a Florida native terrestrial orchid NOID just starting it's bloom. This was taken from a large plant on a woman's patio. This orchid takes full FL sun and blooms most of the summer.

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My Vanda garden
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Terrestrial orchid NOID
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Terrestrial orchid NOID
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Old 03-12-2008, 08:36 PM
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Your terrestrial NoID looks like an Epidendrum of some sort.
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Old 03-12-2008, 08:39 PM
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I would be happy for further info. I took the word of the woman selling it to me. I don't know anything about it.
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:03 PM
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Just the way the bloom looks, it looks like an Epidendrum. Pretty much an orchid that grows like a perpetual weed. It looks very similar to mine. This is a pic of Epc. Rene Marques 'Flamethrower'.
See where the lip is in comparision to the lip on the blooms of your plant?
BTW, I love the colors on yours!!!
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:34 PM
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Your Ascocendas are very happy.

Well done. NOW, if mine do the same, I'll be very happy too.
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:09 PM
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Articuno75, yes, I see what you mean. I will look into it some more. Thank you. Your orchid is very pretty.

Anton- As I have said before, worm tea and humidity. I will use a yard sprinkler on them from time to time if it doesn't rain. As I said, blessed. How are you? Good to hear from you. I love your squirrel.
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:11 PM
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Can anyone take a guess on the green growths on the last picture, Lonnie Morris? They are both growing directly under the stalks from last year. I know the picture isn't the best, I need to work on that again, too.
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:14 PM
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You're right Jenny, the terrestrial noid is an Epidendrum, more specifically a reed-stem Epidendrum. It looks to be a hybrid, but there are lots of these hybrids so I can't say for sure which one it is.

It's not a terrestrial however. Check out its roots and you'll see they're epiphytic roots. So you'll probably get the best results by treating it and potting it like other epiphytic orchids.

They are hearty and vigorous. Enjoy!
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:22 PM
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Hello again, Kevin. Good to hear from you, too. Please give me more info. I am very interested. This orchid is planted in plain dirt. Is this the correct medium? What makes you think it's a hybrid. I want to know what I really have. Ooohhh, this is interesting.
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:37 PM
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Hi chef,

I think it is a hybrid mostly because of the fullness of the flower segments (flower parts: petals, sepals, etc) and the density of the flowers on the spike. The Epi. species, while brightly coloured are often thinner in the flower segments and in number. We're talking about hybrids made with a relatively small group of species including:

Epi ibaguense
Epi schomburgkia
Epi radicans
Epi. secundum

...and probably half-a-dozen more species that I'm forgetting.

I usually see them grown in a medium to fine bark chip mix. In intermediate, cattleya-like conditions.
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:49 PM
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Wow, thank you Kevin. The Epi. radicums color and flower is almost identical to mine. The flower cluster is different. I wonder if it's because this has been growing in plain dirt. I wonder if I changed it to fine bark chip if things would change?

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Ellen, I've had my eye on this very same Epidendrum. There's a grower on ebay and the reason why I never bid was because of the light requirements. (I can't wait till I'm able to change this, I want/need some Vandas!) How long have you had it in regular soil? How is it doing?

You'll always hold the title, Queen of Vandas and these pics show why.

Great growing. Now, stick around!
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Articuno75, yes, I see what you mean. I will look into it some more. Thank you. Your orchid is very pretty.

Anton- As I have said before, worm tea and humidity. I will use a yard sprinkler on them from time to time if it doesn't rain. As I said, blessed. How are you? Good to hear from you. I love your squirrel.
Oh no, this picture is one of Jerry Meola's, but it is what mine will look like when it blooms. Mine is a cross of Epidendrum and Cattleya.

I have mine potted in Schultz Orchid mix. I been told and read that Epidendrums will literally grow anywhere. Kevin is right they are epiphytic and you can pot them in regular mix. I read a vendor's site in Australia that some where found growing on roadsides. They'll grow anywhere.
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The Epi. radicums color and flower is almost identical to mine. The flower cluster is different. I wonder if it's because this has been growing in plain dirt. I wonder if I changed it to fine bark chip if things would change?
Your plant isn't the species Epi radicans. First of all the species is very varied with respect to colour. The pic I posted was orange but not all radicans are. They can be pinkish, red, lavenderish, etc., etc. Lots of variation so the pic i linked to is just one of many colour possibilities. Your plant probably has radicans in it, maybe even a lot of radicans in it, but it's not the species.

There are hundreds and hundreds of these hybrids, probably most of which were never registered because they've been grown and bred as pot plants and haven't been kept track of. Not having a name for it doesn't necessarily lessen the enjoyment of the plant. It will bloom just as nicely tagged Epidendrum hybrid as it would with a name. Lots of us have noid plants that we grow and bloom.
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I been told and read that Epidendrums will literally grow anywhere. Kevin is right they are epiphytic and you can pot them in regular mix. I read a vendor's site in Australia that some where found growing on roadsides. They'll grow anywhere.
Jenny, what kind of light are you providing? Now that it's getting much brighter in my growing area, I'm not worried. It's October thru February that bumbs me out. I think I should get one. One more purchase on ebay to make my 400th purchase so this will work!!!
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I have mine setting on a shelf with all of my other orchids right by an East facing window. (I had to break down and buy a shelf of all things )

It sits on the second row now. I DID have it sitting on my little wooden chest right by the window with the Catts for about a whole whopping 2 days thinking the concept "more light is better". HeHeHE. That was too funny. I gave it a mild case of sunburn and moved it back. (It lost a leaf from it )

It was one of those OOPS moments
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I have one also, it sits in a west window, it's canes are full of roots and keikes,they are exotic looking and easy to grow.
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The woman I bought my Epi.NOID (thank you, Kevin), had her large plant right out on the patio in full sun. The leaves turn a dark red but none died.

Sandra-My pot and many others were cuttings just below areas where roots grow out of the stalk. Mine has been in it's pot a while. The leaves are greener because it was in more shade than the 'mother' plant. I have mine out on the patio in full sun now, but, after learning about it, may put it under the oak tree. At least I know it can have sun.

Jenny, Evangentry, thank you for your info on this plant. Easy to grow, can grow in any kind of soil, exotic looking. This is my kind of plant!
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