Visit our other forums: Gardening Forums Bonsai Forum Citrus Forum Fat Cat Forum Appraisers Forum Disney Forum Hawaii Forum Vegetarian Forum Frugal Forum


Go Back   Orchid Forum Orchid Care > Orchid Care > Orchid Care Cultivation

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 02-14-2008, 03:55 AM
maninair's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bombay (Mumbai) India
Posts: 148
Images: 9
Thanks: 1
Thanked 15 Times in 6 Posts
maninair is on a distinguished road
Vanda Miss Joaquim

Dear all,

The bottom of my Vanda Miss Joaquim has turned brown, but new leaf growth and root growth can be seen. Is there any problem?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 02-14-2008, 06:26 AM
kmarch's Avatar
Chief Of Staff
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 5,725
Images: 1
Thanks: 10
Thanked 162 Times in 97 Posts
kmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud of
How are you growing it? In a pot? basket? hangar?
Can you specify "bottom"? Do you mean the part furthest form the growing end?
__________________
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 02-14-2008, 06:28 AM
digitalgate's Avatar
Executive Senior Member
PhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucket
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: singapore
Posts: 1,012
Images: 12
Thanks: 1
Thanked 32 Times in 27 Posts
digitalgate is on a distinguished road
too much water gathered at the bottom., make sure the water drain properly. seen my
Miss Joaquim bloom?

however, how high has the "browness" travel up the main stem?
RMT you should also post your blasted bud here too.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 02-16-2008, 10:51 AM
maninair's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bombay (Mumbai) India
Posts: 148
Images: 9
Thanks: 1
Thanked 15 Times in 6 Posts
maninair is on a distinguished road
It is in a pot with bricks and coal. I water in the morning. Bottom meaning the end which touches the brick pieces.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 02-16-2008, 07:40 PM
digitalgate's Avatar
Executive Senior Member
PhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucket
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: singapore
Posts: 1,012
Images: 12
Thanks: 1
Thanked 32 Times in 27 Posts
digitalgate is on a distinguished road
don't worry. this is normal. If now is the dry season for you,spray water in the morning on
the root (if they grow roots above the pot level.)If you water in the evening, other problem
will arrive. Oh, morning as in 7am in the morning not 10am.

i hope it does not travel up the stem , it that happen then you will rotting problem.(too
much water)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 03-12-2008, 07:37 PM
mdomingz's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: panama
Posts: 71
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
mdomingz is on a distinguished road
My vanda Miss Joaquim is all shriveled, it's about 4' tall, still growing (rather slow, though) but it's got small brounish dry looking blotches through the whole length of the plant. It may be fungus, but i'm not sure how fungus look on terete leaves. It's planted in soil for about a year now, (i had it before in just coconut coir). It's out in my balcony in full sun most of the day. Good overall humidity (tropical). All the air roots are skinny too but turn green when sprayed water on. I know it's supposed to be plump, firm and even in color, but it's not, and that really bothers me. I've sprayed anti fungal spray several times, but it seems to have no result. The same with bug spray with same results. Leaves are still green but super skinny and soft.

I spray it almost every morning to get the aerial roots some water, the soil is always kept moist.

I really want some advice, since i love this plant, and dont want to loose it or worse, transfer whatever is has to the others.

thanks in advance for any help

manuel
panama

ps. i'll post a pic as soon as i can
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 03-12-2008, 09:03 PM
digitalgate's Avatar
Executive Senior Member
PhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucket
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: singapore
Posts: 1,012
Images: 12
Thanks: 1
Thanked 32 Times in 27 Posts
digitalgate is on a distinguished road
it need a rainy weather of 1 week to suck up all the water it need. Is your rainy season
coming? The brown thing you describe , sound like scale.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2008, 07:38 AM
maninair's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bombay (Mumbai) India
Posts: 148
Images: 9
Thanks: 1
Thanked 15 Times in 6 Posts
maninair is on a distinguished road
Dear digitalgate,

My vanda miss joaquim is one year old. It is growing on brick and coco peat. Can I transfer it to soil now? please advise.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2008, 10:27 AM
kmarch's Avatar
Chief Of Staff
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 5,725
Images: 1
Thanks: 10
Thanked 162 Times in 97 Posts
kmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud of
Quote:
Originally Posted by maninair View Post
...It is growing on brick and coco peat. Can I transfer it to soil now? please advise.
Soil? Goodness no, don't plant your Vanda in soil. Most folks grow vandas either bare root in a basket with no or very little mix with the roots hanging down, or they grow them in pots with large bark mix.
__________________
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2008, 10:33 AM
digitalgate's Avatar
Executive Senior Member
PhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucket
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: singapore
Posts: 1,012
Images: 12
Thanks: 1
Thanked 32 Times in 27 Posts
digitalgate is on a distinguished road
kelvin, all our Vanda miss joaquim is grown on compost.

Mannair, Yes you can tranfer to compose with coco peat. (or just $3 a bag compost is fine)
Do you have any roots being developed up the plant? If you have put a 1 inch stick about
1.5m to support the plant. The roots will stick itself on the wood and somehow help to
absorb nutrient. Therefore you have to water the soil and the woodstick that you tie the
plant to as the root will be growing on the wood.
I think your plant have grow to about 40 cm in height? You can go ahead and put it into
full sun. Water twice a day and fertilize everyother watering (very diluted). It is
a heavy feeder plant.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2008, 11:07 AM
kmarch's Avatar
Chief Of Staff
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 5,725
Images: 1
Thanks: 10
Thanked 162 Times in 97 Posts
kmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud of
Quote:
Originally Posted by digitalgate View Post
kelvin, all our Vanda miss joaquim is grown on compost.
My..that's interesting..and so different from what we do. Do you have a pic so I can see better what you mean?

P.S. It's Kevin, not Kelvin.
__________________
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2008, 12:20 PM
digitalgate's Avatar
Executive Senior Member
PhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucket
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: singapore
Posts: 1,012
Images: 12
Thanks: 1
Thanked 32 Times in 27 Posts
digitalgate is on a distinguished road
sorry for the messy photo. The pot is on the bottom left hand corner.


notice the plant's root covered in dried leaves which hide the soil underneath

ok i lied a bit this one is not in compost but charcoal

this one is in soil

Last edited by digitalgate; 04-12-2008 at 12:23 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2008, 02:14 PM
tom499's Avatar
Executive Senior Member
PhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucket
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Birmingham, UK
Posts: 1,291
Images: 38
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
tom499 is a jewel in the roughtom499 is a jewel in the roughtom499 is a jewel in the rough
ooooohhhh becomes clear now!

I see them sold as Vanda tere, they are the Thai official plant or something? Please correct though

But I have seen these crop up on ebay as Vanda tere plants. Not a great source I know, but its worth a mention.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2008, 08:24 PM
digitalgate's Avatar
Executive Senior Member
PhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucket
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: singapore
Posts: 1,012
Images: 12
Thanks: 1
Thanked 32 Times in 27 Posts
digitalgate is on a distinguished road
no, this is Singapore national flower. Just like slipper orchids is Minnesota state flower.
Rose is the national flower of England.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2008, 09:30 PM
palito's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 211
Images: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
palito is on a distinguished road
thanks for that info digitalgate. i just got a cut branch of papilionanthe teres. Ill put it in a pot like in your pic instead of just hanging bare. At least it is more presentable when in flower.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2008, 10:49 PM
kmarch's Avatar
Chief Of Staff
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 5,725
Images: 1
Thanks: 10
Thanked 162 Times in 97 Posts
kmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud ofkmarch has much to be proud of
The second pic especially helps me understand much better. Thanks. This is really fascinating. I wonder if they could be grown like that anywhere in the US or maybe in northern Australia which is more tropical.
__________________
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 04-13-2008, 05:09 AM
tom499's Avatar
Executive Senior Member
PhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucket
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Birmingham, UK
Posts: 1,291
Images: 38
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
tom499 is a jewel in the roughtom499 is a jewel in the roughtom499 is a jewel in the rough
Sorry for the mix up digitalgate.

Thanks for the info, I'll have to look out for them.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 04-13-2008, 06:43 AM
maninair's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bombay (Mumbai) India
Posts: 148
Images: 9
Thanks: 1
Thanked 15 Times in 6 Posts
maninair is on a distinguished road
I have got Vermicompost - it is okay?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 04-13-2008, 06:51 AM
digitalgate's Avatar
Executive Senior Member
PhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucket
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: singapore
Posts: 1,012
Images: 12
Thanks: 1
Thanked 32 Times in 27 Posts
digitalgate is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by palito View Post
thanks for that info digitalgate. i just got a cut branch of papilionanthe teres. Ill put it in a pot like in your pic instead of just hanging bare. At least it is more presentable when in flower.
i wouldn't recommend for other Vanda. There are some Vanda terete type
that only grow on charcoal. Soil is not recommended for them. (therefore
experience really count). Vanda miss joaquim grow almost anywhere. On the wall
on the wood, on brick, on soil, in compost, ... That is why it is chosen as
state flower. It grows on you too...
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 04-15-2008, 12:59 PM
maninair's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bombay (Mumbai) India
Posts: 148
Images: 9
Thanks: 1
Thanked 15 Times in 6 Posts
maninair is on a distinguished road
Thanks digital, I will give a try.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 04-15-2008, 03:22 PM
V.I.P Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: South East Florida
Posts: 0
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
sandra is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by digitalgate View Post
Vanda miss joaquim grow almost anywhere. On the wall on the wood, on brick, on soil, in compost, ... That is why it is chosen as state flower. It grows on you too...
Did you just make that up digitalgate...the part, "it grows on you too".....? obviously meaning how if you don't now, you'll end up loving it...

I love the sentiment!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote