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Dendrobium kinginum roots

Hello!

I have got 2 canes from Dendrobium kingianum.

How long does is last, untill the Dens get flowers?

At one D. kingianum, there is a tiny new shoot, that builds up roots.

My question is, should i let them grow in 20° Celsius so that they can make many roots and and many new shoots?

Is it better, when I do this, because the plant then has more strength the next year to build up mor Flowers

How many years do I have to wait, untill this plant will bloom?

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I have some Den kingianum that are growing in 50mm pots. One of them bloomed this year, the second year it has bloomed and the largest growth on it is only about 2 inches long. Other varieties of kingianum are quite a bit larger than that. So it depends on what kind of kingianum it is.
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I think you have at least a couple of years before that will bloom. I think you will need two or three bulbs in a row to give the plant the resources to bloom.
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Thank you, Cynthia, Prescott, AZ!

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In their habitat Summer days average 24C, nights 14-15C with a diurnal range of 9-10C. Winter days average 15-19C, nights 4-7C with a diurnal range of 10-12C. According to Baker some growers indicate that winter nights at least as Cool as 10C are necessary to initiate blooms and that plants tolerate lows to 2C. In cultivation, water should be greatly reduced from midautumn until growth resumes in spring. Plants should be allowed to dry out between waterings, but they should not remain dry for prolonged periods. Australian growers recommend just enough water in winter so the pseudobulbous stems do not become shriveled. Fertilizer should be reduced or eliminated when water is reduced. Growers indicate that distinct seasonal variation is essential for plant health..
Elsewhere I read that they must have a dormant period of at least 100 days. REST Nov-Mar. Summer+spring water 1x week, in winter reduced to 1x every 2 weeks or when bark is dry(I do not grow mine in bark).

This is information that I have collected, and not my own experience as I have only had my own kingianum for 1 year(it bloomed after keeping it cooler over the winter). Hope this helps.

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I grow mine a little different to Linda. In spring (it is spring now) I water mine twice a week, feed them once a week. In summer I water daily as it gets very hot and the plants dry out. In winter I water either once a week or fortnightly, depending on whether the medium has dried out. I do not let the get totally dry. Usually though fortnightly in deep winter is enough.
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drecksuck, might I ask why you have that rude popup? Don't show that again on this forum, or any others for that matter.
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The name drecksuck translates into foul language.
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Well Joan, and that is only the least of it.
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Joan, would you put your location please? It helps if you have to get some info.
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The name drecksuck translates into foul language.

@Joan.

I am Living in Germany and I did dot know, that this means a bad WORD for You you


I have the word "drecksuck" because in Germsny is an Drecksack a bad guy.

BUT REALLY: I m no drecksuck, it was just a Name, I hat lett my cello, Bhratheringh...
Ich habe chosen "drecksuck" in diesem Forum because the Word " Dreck" and the Word in englisch means filth(

To suck means in German: Saugen, Lutschen


When you put dreck und suck tugether, it means "drecksuck

SO: You americans and UKs say to it "DRECKSACK!

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This is a forum about Orchids not about what something is or is not in another language or culture. It was not meant to be insulting to anybody it is just a name. We are all different, and it would be an awfully dull world if we were all the same. How about a little tolerance. Back to kingianum and how we grow them.
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Now back to the kingies, if you want keikis to repot, keep them well watered through winter and you'll get plenty of keikies, but few flowers.

I found out the hard way, but it has increased my stock.

At present I have mine sitting in water sort of semi hydropnic, if you like, and the new growth is incredible, best I have ever had.
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I have heard several people say that they have had great success growing them semi-hydroponically and have transferred one of mine this year to test this out. Glad to hear that yours is growing so well too.
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Hi!

I have transferred my Den. kingianum and delicatum in S/H since 7 days. Now I have to see, what happens the next few months.
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Mines just in plain bark, one of the first orchids I had, and its doubled in size every year so far. I also found out the hard way about watering too much in winter, but atm i have 3 spikes and hopefully with a dry cool winter I'll get more in the spring.

Being one of my first orchids I would say there pretty much bullet proof as long as you dont over water too much, they can take quite a temp shock (as I've also discovered =/ hehehe..)
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Drecksuck I would plant the Dendrobium kingianum in small bark. Do not put it in too big a pot. Leave about 2cm around the edges. Repot it only when it becomes too large for the pot. All my dens are in squat pots. Keep it moist in spring and summer, a little dryer in autumn and winter. I do not let mine dry out, but I live in Australia so it may be a little different where you are.
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i have to say:I have only old shoots from last year, on that shoots, there are very little roots and very little pink ner baby-shoots.


i think, there are two ways:

1. Way, to let them flower: keep it cool and dry, 6 weeks long, so that they will bloom in 3 Months???

2, way, to grow it warm, so that the litle canes get bigger/more mass so that they bloom in one or two years -or three, but i think, the second way is better because they have more mass then. So that they build up enough mass and will bloom in 1-3 Years?

Am I right or wrong?

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Dendrobium kingianum is a cool grower.
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In way #2, you take the chance that the babies do not come from the base of the bulbs, where they should come from, but grow up and down the cane. This type of baby just throws out roots and is not anchored to anything, and must be taken off the mother and planted seperately. The growths from the base of the bulbs are much better and stronger and make for a bigger plant in the long run, and you only get these in way #1. In the first way you feed and water the plant during the season when it can make the best growth.
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