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Old 10-14-2007, 06:49 AM
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This annoys me greatly =/

I believe this to be the 2nd time its happened, which makes me wonder that this will be an ongoing problem, genetic and unfixable.

Yes, these flowers have 'finished' opening, they've been like this for a week. More buds to come, on a very nice tall spike, plant is lovely and healthy....no fair!

Any info would be great, maybe its just a phase?

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Old 10-14-2007, 07:04 AM
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Tom I think your phal has peloric mutation gene.. one of my dendrobium has it's petals not opening up like yours. It's genetic I would say.. maybe this kind of plant is valuable for those who cross between hybrids but.. for a lay person like I.. it's rather something dissapointing but I've learned to live with it.. just something not everyone has.. hehe
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Old 10-14-2007, 07:13 AM
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It does look "Peloric" to me too. I agree with ogus in that it is genetic. Some people do like these and seek to cross them.

If you don't like it, perhaps it's worth considering for the sales bench??? Just a thought.
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Old 10-14-2007, 08:05 AM
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tom499: Mutated or not they look fine to ME, a novice . I am having a hard time figuring out what is really wrong with it
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Old 10-14-2007, 08:29 AM
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I'm not really in the orchid groups yet due to not having much time, so I think I'll be be stuck with it for awhile..

I wont put it on the compost heap just yet
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:04 AM
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tom499: Mutated or not they look fine to ME, a novice . I am having a hard time figuring out what is really wrong with it
It's just that what are normally lateral petals are shaped almost like the lip.

-Cj
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:40 AM
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Thanks orchidflowerchild.

I did not get that until you mentioned it

It is still pretty though
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:47 AM
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tom499 is a jewel in the roughtom499 is a jewel in the roughtom499 is a jewel in the rough
'rare mutated phal hybrid'.

Yours for $100

Or maybe just for the postage costs
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Old 10-14-2007, 10:27 AM
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well... I like it! It is unusual!
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:27 AM
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tom - I have one just like it and bought it because of it's oddity. It is peloric indeed... and will, to the best of my knowledge, always be like that.
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Old 10-14-2007, 12:20 PM
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tom499 is a jewel in the roughtom499 is a jewel in the roughtom499 is a jewel in the rough
hmmmm maybe it is worth keeping beauty is in the eye of the beholder afterall Maybe another grower would swap for it in the future.
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Tom if i can find one of mine you would like I will happily do a swap

Its far too beautiful for the composr heap or criticism
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Old 10-14-2007, 01:48 PM
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That would be a nice idea justloveorchids.

Where are you from? If you go on edit profile, you can put on there where your from so everyone can see. You only need to put your country and state/region.

I could only send it within UK, possibly Europe, as I would fear for its safety (and damage to my wallet ) If it went further.
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Old 10-14-2007, 02:59 PM
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Tom I live in Reading UK
not a million miles from Birmingham
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:06 PM
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wow! Thats near perfect I have family friends who live there.

Well, if you tell me what you'd like to swap for it. I'll get you a full photo of the plant you can see exactly what It looks like.
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:28 PM
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Here are the photos.

You can probably make out the algae on the inside of the pot. I've left this as the plant was in spike. The algae just washes out the pot when repotting, it does little apart from block out light to the roots. The plant will be repotted long before it causes a problem.

Its pest free, Its been grown indoors since buying it.
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Old 10-14-2007, 07:09 PM
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i'm going to go with the mutation idea; i was in a local nursery today (buying more ant traps ) and they had just gotten a big shipment of 'chids, including a bunch of baldan's kaleidoscopes; one of them had flowers shaped like that.

a couple pelorics:

http://www.orchidexchange.com/Photos/web0907.htm
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Old 10-14-2007, 10:35 PM
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Tom,

I agree...a peloric. It's a beautiful phal, especially the color.

Like Vivienne, I like some oddity and would keep it. But then everyone has his/her own preferences.
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Old 10-15-2007, 07:09 AM
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Tom as most others have said it probably is peloric.........however I have a Phal Malibu Bistro that produced two spike this year, one was normal and the other had mutated blooms similar to yours.

I also had a noid with peloric flowers that I was going to toss but the wife would not let me as she thought it was nice.
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:36 AM
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Tom, Vivienne, Orchids are so unusally beautiful, peloric or not. Doesn't detract from their beauty, just adds interest, in my opinion. Both are very pretty.
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:41 AM
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tom499 is a jewel in the roughtom499 is a jewel in the roughtom499 is a jewel in the rough
I'm sure It looks lovely to many people, but I just dont like it
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