Taking a stab

[Vivienne]

Okay, I know I haven't been around in forever, but I do have a few newbies that don't have names. So I'm taking a stab that someone can get me going in the right direction. Oh Kevin!?!

1. Paph NoID (looks sort of like barbigerum or insigne)
2. some sort of Pleurothallid with the teeny tiniest little bloom
3. sort of a close up of the Pleuro bloom
4. my first ever Catt that I've managed to get to bloom - YEAH!

[Aleksa]

Wonderful orchids! I LOVE that pleurothallidis! It is soooo cute! I don't have pleuro yet, but if I ever could get one... WoW!

[PhalPal]

I love your little mounted one also Vivienne! Too cute! I am going to a show next weekend and will buy my first mini-catt. You guys have worn me down with your beautiful pictures. This could be the start of something bad, ahh...I mean big.

[Vivienne]

PhalPhal - watch out for the Catts... they are addicting in their own way! But they are SOOO worth it!

[PhalPal]

I have been on the evil internet looking at mini-catts....oh my....this could get ugly!

[Vivienne]

The little Pleuro... went to my local OS meeting last weekend and one of the members had a mount just covered in it. He ripped off a portion and -voila- now I'm working on my own mount. It's the cutest! Today I completed my 'cool humidty' area for the pleuro, my masdevallias and restrepia. Sure hope they all like it. Keeping the humidity up and temp cool was getting to be a big challenge.

[PSU_OrchidFan]

The pleuro looks like Pleuro grobyii
The cat is a brassavola hybrid. Similiar to Sunset Glory but not with that dark of a lip. The paph - I have no idea. HTH

[kmarch]

Vivienne,

Welcome back! Well lets see here....your Paph. It's not a species, so not insigne and definitely not barbigerum (P. barbigerum is the second smallest Paph ever discovered and has a leaf span of only about 3-4 inches along wiht a small flower).

I think your Paph is some sort of hirsutissimum hybrid. Here's a pic of Paph hirsuitissimum. Notice the basal ruffling of the petals and the "grainy" looking markings at the same location. Your flower exhibits both of these. So I'm about 85% sure of that parent....now what about the other....

Let's see, your plant has 2 flowers on one inflorescence? It looks like it may have had 3 at one point? P hirsutissimum is a single-flowered Paph so I expect the other parent could be a multi-floral (like a philippinense, or somethign similar). Many multi-florals have clearly striped dorsals and when crossed with somethign that does not, result in moderately tesselated dorsals like you have.

Another possibility for the other parent is Paph villosum which is double-flowered and which holds its petals in a graceful, slightly forward-curving stance. The problem with villosum as a parent is that many villosum hybrids have severely reflexed dorsals which yours does not. Here is a picture (although probably not a good enough of one ot positively say yes or no) of hirsutissimum x villosum. Note the pinched/rolled back quality of the dorsal.

So I think I've put you in the vicinity though haven't given an ID.

[kmarch]

I'm pretty sure it's not hirsutissimum x villosum. i forgot how dominant villosum's form is when used as a parent. Here's a good pic of hirsutissimum x villosum. You can see it is essentially a villosum shaped flower with hirsutissimum colouration.

[pikevi]

Nice plants and nice flowers.

A pretty mount too.

I especially like the rectangular clay pot

[fred]

Welcome back Vivienne
its nice to have you back with us
its good to see your new orchids
I hope all is going well for you

[orchid_girl]

Very nice!! They are all cute!!

[Vivienne]

Thanks everyone! I knew I'd get pointed in the right direction with all the new babies. THANK YOU!

Kevin - the paph is pretty big. 5" nat spread... sorry can't find my metric ruler. And it's rather robust... if that makes sense. It's great to have some names to research... and at least get a general idea what it is.

PSU - thanks. I looked up the pleuro grobyii and it appears to have inflorences bearing multple blooms. Mine only pops up 1 bloom per stem. But the flower shape is very similar. Thanks! And the Catt help is a huge help.

Fred - told you I'd try my best to get back and I made it! Thanks!

You guys and gals are the best!

[kmarch]

Your Catt is definitely some type of Richard Mueller cross. Many of these exhibit this orange/bronze colouration often with shades of purple. I suspect it will darken as the flower ages. Let me know if it does.

[kmarch]

I just had a thought....what if your Paph is someting like an exhibition Paph crossed with something like primulinum?

[Vivienne]

Kevin - I just took a morning look (as in, before coffee) and I think you're on to something. I also recently picked up a few Winston Churchill crosses that aren't in bloom around the same time. The dorsal reminds me more of that sort of Paph.

The catt - I need coffee before I take a look at that one. LOL

[jerrymeola]

your cat has uneven color in the petals and septals so I would guess it was someones cross that may not be reproduced again. The lip is beautiful so they may experiment more for a more even color.

Lots of hybrids don't make the class of being worthy of cloning. So your no-name plant may really be a no name and never have a registered name.

[Vivienne]

A very good point Jerry. My catt has undergone some wild color changes the past week.
I'm not so worried or interested in an exact name on the Catt, but trying to get a bit of an idea on genera (laelia, brassavola, etc). Looking around the closest I've seen was on the Santa Barbara orchids site - a Bl. Richard Mueller x L. tenebrosa.