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Old 08-26-2007, 05:58 PM
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Question Dendrobium keikis

I kept my dendrobium "dream ace" outside for the summer and it is currently blooming beautifully. However, I notice that the flower "spikes" also have roots like keikis. Is this normal? This is the first time I've seen it produce blooming keikis. I suppose I'll cut them off and pot them as soon as the flowers drop off. Any other ideas? Please help! jcg
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:07 PM
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Dendrobiums do produce keikis. A few of mine do constantly. I would leave them
on until the roots are between 2-3 inches long. That's the best time to separate
them. I have left some of mine on until they flowered. I got some beautiful
spiking blooms that way. Most of the keikis I potted did very well. They grow
quite quickly.
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dendrobium keikis

Tobi,
Thanks for your swift reply. I have had numerous keikis in the past, but I've never had them in bloom. This is pretty cool. I will pot them when the roots get a little longer. Thanks for your input. jcg
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Old 08-26-2007, 07:55 PM
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sorry to hijack your thread but I have a dendrobium keiki question too. My little Den. gouldii x carronii has 2 keikis growing each with 5 roots about 1" in length. I plan to remove these two and mount them (both on one mount). Should I stick with the 2-3" root length before I do so, or mount them now and let the roots grow in to the mount? Did that make sense? (pills are working well right now) LOL
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Old 08-26-2007, 10:41 PM
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Vivienne: Several of us had similar questions on another thread. I too have a large keiki on my nobile den. Cynthia had a reply regarding mounting of the keikis. Check out this link.
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Old 08-26-2007, 10:42 PM
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Junie, I too have a dend that has grown 12 huge spikes loaded with buds and also like yours, one of these budded spikes is from a keiki. The keikis are easy to remove and when it's done flowering, with about 1 1/2 - 2" of roots is when it's safe to remove, by twisting from side to side and gently pulling as you're twisting to remove it. Growth is much faster if the keiki remains on the mother cane (which is removed) and potted up. Cynthia has given instructions on how to pot these....somewhere in one of these threads.
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I don't know how you folks do it. Evidently the entire forum membership has at least one den which is burying itself in spikes, while mine simply sit there - spikeless, bloomless, colorless. Every time I read a thread like this one - or another response to this one - I run out back, sure I must have missed something. Think I'm going to give them another year, then see how they grow in the bay.

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Old 08-27-2007, 03:39 PM
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give us your environmental conditions depending on the den it may need a water break in the winter. Failure to do this results in keikeis and no flowers.

not enough light will often mean no flowers.
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Rick: I agree with Tom - probably not enough light. I admit that it's a precarious balance trying to find the right light conditions in your own environment; however, I will share a comment from one of our forum members who once said, "Benign neglect" seems to help. Once I stopped fussying over my dens, they seemed to do much better without my constant intervention and they behaved all on their own. Just my opinion!
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I don't know how you folks do it. Evidently the entire forum membership has at least one den which is burying itself in spikes, while mine simply sit there - spikeless, bloomless, colorless. Every time I read a thread like this one - or another response to this one - I run out back, sure I must have missed something. Think I'm going to give them another year, then see how they grow in the bay.

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I for one, didn't do anything in this case E-Jag except give it lots of sunshine and watered regularly. This has gotten so huge, I had to move the bakers rack it sits on, further away from the screen. I've done nothing though, just got lucky with mine.
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Sandra - That looks beautiful!! Looks like the blooms are going to be red. Do
you have an ID or is it an NOID? Most of mine are pink, white or orange.

E-Jag - Just be patient. As Sandra stated, give it LOTS of light (helps promote
blooming), not necessarily alot of direct sunlight. Most of mine when I first got
them took about 2 years to adjust to my conditions. But once they do, they'll
bloom and bloom for you
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Sandra - That looks beautiful!! Looks like the blooms are going to be red. Do
you have an ID or is it an NOID? Most of mine are pink, white or orange.

E-Jag - Just be patient. As Sandra stated, give it LOTS of light (helps promote
blooming), not necessarily alot of direct sunlight. Most of mine when I first got
them took about 2 years to adjust to my conditions. But once they do, they'll
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Tobi, thanks for pointing that out, NOT direct sunlight.

No i.d. on this one. One spike grew and bloomed a few weeks ago which broke off while I was moving it. I thought that was it for the season and almost sniffled until I started seeing what was looming. It's fuschia in color. Take a look....
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Sandra - simply stunning! Can't wait to see it all bloomed out!!

I've shied away from Dens. Currently have 5 scrawny little things in 3" pots that I purchased from the grocery store last year. 2 are working on spikes... but they are pitiful looking.
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Sandra - beautiful color!! I'll have to look around for one.
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My dens stay on my back balcony, which is open and faces south. Huge amounts of light and late afternoon direct sun for maybe an hour. I water thoroughly every other day and use worm tea every couple of weeks. As "winter" approaches I'll probably back off of the watering a little. They're phal type dens so I don't think I need to dry them out. I appreciate everyone's comments.

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E-Jag, I live in Northeast PA and I keep my den outside during summer until temps get down to about 45 to 50 deg. Bring it into my sunroom for the rest of the winter. Water once per week. It blooms twice a year for me. My avatar is a small portion of the main plant. I don't fuss too much with this orchid, just follow a few basic rules and voile', beautiful blooms. Try cooling it off a little before bringing indoors for your "cooler" months and see what happens. Good luck..... junie g.
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In my limited exposure to the world of orchids I have not seen such thick growth in dendrobiums nor so many flower spikes. At least not outside of orchid shows.

Beautiful flowers, sandra.
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beautiful blooms

Thanks, Sandra! This is by far my favorite orchid in my collection. I am fairly new at this and this one was the first ever purchased. It definitely got me hooked. The delicate fragrance when in bloom is of great pleasure to me. The picture represented by my avatar was taken in January, so you can imaging what a pleasure it is to see and smell this in mid winter in the northeast US. Thanks again for your kind remarks. jcg
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Junieg2,

Your avatar picture is so tempting. Are they from 1 orchid or several orchid?
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I for one, didn't do anything in this case E-Jag except give it lots of sunshine and watered regularly. This has gotten so huge, I had to move the bakers rack it sits on, further away from the screen. I've done nothing though, just got lucky with mine.
god!!!

That dendro is so gorgeous......give me your tip to grow dendro. Last I had a dream that my dendro grow rapidly and started to show a lot of buds...
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I like to keep keikis on as long a possible because it creates a colony affect that makes the orchids grow faster.
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