Culmanara Wildcat rainbow

boxerfan · #1 (**permalink**) 07-20-2007, 03:13 PM

I just got this beauty yesterday. The bulbs are a dark purplish in some areas. Any idea what this means? Lisa

snowballsarebad · #2 (**permalink**) 07-20-2007, 04:03 PM

Purple often means they got a lot of sunshine, at least on the leaves. I've got a Brassada that has leaves that are mostly purple, and it is doing great, just putting out some new growth. You'll want to watch out though that it doesn't get TOO much sun...if purple starts turning yellow, your plants are likely being sunburned.

PhalPal · #3 (**permalink**) 07-20-2007, 04:03 PM

Beautiful Lisa! I came to the forum today to change my signature; I was going to put, guess what, "My goal in life....is to be the kind of person my dog thinks I am." I have the magnet on my frig and it really is my philosophy in life!
But Ya beat me to it....

Tobi · #4 (**permalink**) 07-20-2007, 04:46 PM

Hi Lisa,
I agree with Snowball in that sometimes if a plant is exposed to too much
sunlight, it will manufacture a redish-purple pigment much like a human's
skin will turn red from too much sun exposure. Try and filter the sunlight it's
getting and that should resolve the issue. By the way, very lovely orchid!!

P.S. The correct spelling of the genus is Colmanara (kole-man-AH-rah)

Anton · #5 (**permalink**) 07-20-2007, 07:28 PM

Boxerfan, I am going to do a Kevin here, the correct spelling of the name is COLMANARA, but it's correct name is now Odontocidium which is it's official RHS ratified name.

So you have an Odontocidium Wildcat 'Rainbow'. Bought one plant and came out with another.

pikevi · #6 (**permalink**) 07-20-2007, 08:35 PM

Very nice ,boxerfan.

kmarch · #7 (**permalink**) 07-20-2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Anton

Boxerfan, I am going to do a Kevin here, the correct spelling of the name is COLMANARA, but it's correct name is now Odontocidium which is it's official RHS ratified name.

So you have an Odontocidium Wildcat 'Rainbow'. Bought one plant and came out with another.

Well done Anton. Ya make me feel like a proud parent!

And well done boxerfan. It's a nice plant!

**Vivienne** · #8 (**permalink**) 07-20-2007, 09:34 PM

Anton or Kevin - does this mean that all Colmanara are now Odontocidium??
I have a Colmanara Wild Willie (I think that's it's name). Guess I better go do some research!

kmarch · #9 (**permalink**) 07-20-2007, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Vivienne

Anton or Kevin - does this mean that all Colmanara are now Odontocidium??

No it does not. The name change only applies to Colmanaras which contained one of 2 species Miltonia schroederiana and Miltonia warscewiczii which were renamed Oncidium schroederianum, and Oncidium fuscatum respectively. Colmanara Wildcat contained Miltonia warscewiczii, now Oncidium fuscatum. As Colmanara contains Miltonia + Oncidium + Odontoglossum and as the Miltonia in the mix is no longer a Miltonia, but now an Oncidium, the cross now only contains Odontoglossum and Oncidium which makes it Odontocidium.

Here is a list of hybrids affected by the change. Colmanaras not on this list remain Colmanaras.

**Vivienne** · #10 (**permalink**) 07-21-2007, 12:14 AM

Holy worm tea - now that's really confusing!

kmarch · #11 (**permalink**) 07-21-2007, 12:53 AM

What's confusing about it?

boxerfan · #12 (**permalink**) 07-21-2007, 03:07 AM

Thanks for the information, the spelling lesson, the new and improved plant name and, of course the complements. Lisa

Anton · #13 (**permalink**) 07-21-2007, 05:25 AM

I can hear you mumbling under your breath Lisa.

Real pain isn't it ?

I have a document which is about 10 pages long with the changes.

It is STILL where I filed it,............. if I could remember where THAT is.

pikevi · #14 (**permalink**) 07-21-2007, 07:19 AM

My Odontocidium wildcat is still just sitting with the floral spike. It is almost 6 weeks ( or more). Very little change.

I guess I will have to say 'good-bye' to it.

May be moving it out under the sun did not agree with it.

I will post a photo later.

Anton · #15 (**permalink**) 07-21-2007, 09:11 AM

I think I'll have to wait until next year for my Odontocidium (formerly known as Colmanara) Wild Cat 'Bob Cat' to flower, it is still a young plant. Dang !

**Vivienne** · #16 (**permalink**) 07-21-2007, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kmarch

No it does not. The name change only applies to Colmanaras which contained one of 2 species Miltonia schroederiana and Miltonia warscewiczii which were renamed Oncidium schroederianum, and Oncidium fuscatum respectively. Colmanara Wildcat contained Miltonia warscewiczii, now Oncidium fuscatum. As Colmanara contains Miltonia + Oncidium + Odontoglossum and as the Miltonia in the mix is no longer a Miltonia, but now an Oncidium, the cross now only contains Odontoglossum and Oncidium which makes it Odontocidium.

Here is a list of hybrids affected by the change. Colmanaras not on this list remain Colmanaras.

My Colm Wild Willie is not on the list. However if I do a search for it in the RHS database it does not show up. It does show up if I search for Odontocidium Wild Willie.

pikevi · #17 (**permalink**) 07-21-2007, 10:46 AM

This is the spike of the Odontocidium Wildcat "Bobcat".

While photographing it I noticed that the top 5-6 cm (2") are brown and dry.

I have moved it into the portable GH. Anything else I could do to save the spike?

Thanks.

kmarch · #18 (**permalink**) 07-21-2007, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vivienne

My Colm Wild Willie is not on the list. However if I do a search for it in the RHS database it does not show up. It does show up if I search for Odontocidium Wild Willie.

Hmmm...I did a little digging. First of all I found that Oncidium fuscatum, one of the species that had its name changed thus triggering the movement of many Colmanaras to Odontocidium, is one of the grandparents of Wild Willie. I also found that Wild Willie is a fairly new cross, having been registered only 3 years ago in 2004. I suspect that Wild Willie was not registered until after the document listing the name changes was p