Visit our other forums: Gardening Forums Bonsai Forum Citrus Forum Fat Cat Forum Appraisers Forum Disney Forum Hawaii Forum Vegetarian Forum Frugal Forum


Go Back   Orchid Forum Orchid Care > Orchid Care > Orchid Care Cultivation

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 12-08-2006, 10:29 AM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: S. Burlington, VT
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Paula is on a distinguished road
How does one induce a new phal spike?

Hi there. I have two phalaenopsis which when given to me had a single spike and several blooms each. When the spikes died, I cut them back to their base. Both plants have four, healthy green leaves and one periodically produces new roots. I have been patiently waiting to see either plant develop a spike. But nothing has happened in well over a year...maybe even two years! What can I do to stimulate spike growth? I have heard that a "cold" period may help induce this growth. Is this true? And if so, how long and at what temperature should I "treat" my orchids? Thanks for the help. I think I've forgotten what color the flowers are...it's been THAT long!
Paula
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 12-08-2006, 12:09 PM
mayres's Avatar
V.I.P Member
PhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucket
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Keizer, Oregon
Posts: 2,253
Images: 2
Thanks: 5
Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts
mayres is a glorious beacon of lightmayres is a glorious beacon of lightmayres is a glorious beacon of lightmayres is a glorious beacon of lightmayres is a glorious beacon of lightmayres is a glorious beacon of light
The overall care that your phals get the entire year will play a role as well into their ability and liklihood to spike when conditions are right. Can you give us some more information. What kind of light do they get (a plant in a north window may not get enough light to ever spike), what kind of media, how often do you fertilize and with what and how much, when did you repot last, etc. Assuming the conditions are all good - then yes, the shortening length of daylight and the temperature variance between day and night (somewhere between 10-15 degrees) is what often triggers the plant to start a flower spike. I have approximately 30 phals and only about half of them have responded with spikes after 3-4 weeks of this conditioning - possibly because I have not shortened the light period enough - or other yet to be determined reasons. If you have your plants on a windowsill often just the cool night-time temperatures coming off the window glass is enough to trigger the plants. All of my office phals sitting in a NE window have started to spike on their own in the past few weeks. Good luck - mike
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 12-08-2006, 01:08 PM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: S. Burlington, VT
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Paula is on a distinguished road
Smile Not cold enough to produce new phal spike?

Thanks for your help Mike. My plants are placed in a south-facing window in my office. I fertilize once a month or so with Schultz orchid food (%N=19). I repotted both plants sometime in the last few months with bark...I don't remember what kind. Recently, I moved the orchids away from the window sill because I was concerned they were getting too much direct sunlight. During winter, the sun is very bright in my office. I suppose it is possible that my orchids have not had a "cooling" period since even in winter they are likely warmed by the heater which is RIGHT below the window. So, perhaps I should move them to a cooler place for a month? IF a spike forms, does it do this during the "cooling" period or after?
Paula
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 12-08-2006, 02:18 PM
Cynthia, Prescott, AZ's Avatar
Super Moderator Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Arizona
Posts: 2,687
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Cynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond reputeCynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond reputeCynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond reputeCynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond reputeCynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond reputeCynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond reputeCynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond reputeCynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond reputeCynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond reputeCynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond reputeCynthia, Prescott, AZ has a reputation beyond repute
Also try higher light, but feel the leaves if light falls on them, to make sure the leaves are only luke warm, not hot.
__________________
Cynthia

Prescott Orchid Society
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 12-08-2006, 04:01 PM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: S. Burlington, VT
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Paula is on a distinguished road
thanks

Thank you Cynthia. So a combination of higher light and lower temperature might do it? I'll try this for about a month and cross my fingers! It would make me SO happy to see a new spike!
Paula
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 12-08-2006, 04:42 PM
Daniel S. Barrett's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chester, Va
Posts: 132
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Daniel S. Barrett is on a distinguished road
they will spike during the cool period, I keep mine in a "cool night time zone" until they spike & come to flower and even longer, the cool nights seem to keep the flowers lasting longer, i've commonly had flowering periods lasting 3-4 months by keeping them about 60-64 degrees at night, and 75-78 degrees during the day, humidity about 65 -70 %, it can take up to 8 weeks before you see a spike start, another 4 to 6 weeks for it to come to flower. So be patient! but, it's worth it!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 12-11-2006, 09:02 AM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: S. Burlington, VT
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Paula is on a distinguished road
Hi Daniel, thanks for the advice. It's so hard to be patient! I have placed my orchids in a cooler place and miss seeing them on my desk...sniff. Hopefully, in a couple months, I'll be able to enjoy them with some flowers.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
broken phal spike before flowering brucek Orchid Care Cultivation 8 05-19-2007 10:32 AM
Phal spike, how long to flower? snowballsarebad Newbie Questions 4 10-01-2006 01:30 PM
When to cut Phal spike? orchidnz Newbie Questions 1 07-08-2006 06:43 PM
care of Phal in spike KarenAnne Orchid Care Cultivation 3 06-02-2006 02:11 AM
phal. still in spike but now it's leaves are wilting mmarchese Newbie Questions 6 04-03-2006 08:26 AM


vBskin developed by: CreationLab



plants online


Free Vote Caster from Bravenet.com Free Vote Caster from Bravenet.com


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.1.0
Orchid Forum
Find the Perfect Gift on eBay!