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The first batch have been deflasked for almost two months. How have they adjusted to "life on the outside"?
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Hi, after reading this thread, can you please provide us with a three month update of the seedlings out in the new world. Thank you.
Just wanted you to know this thread is very inspriational and is giving my ideas.
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Hi
This is the first time for me to post here, but this was such an interesting story, that I had to comment. It makes me want to give it a try.
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Sorry I havent been on for awhile, I'll post some pics tonight.
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Just read this whole thread! What an amazing journey! Looking forward to an update. One day I'd love to try this for myself. Sounds like you need a lot of patience!
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I can't wait to see an update!! I want to try this out very soon
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What a journey that was...thanks so much for the pix. I also can't wait for something to happen. So exciting!
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Freakin epic!!!!! I just pollinated my phal on the 20th
You have inspired me. Although i hope too flask myself. XD
I'm a total newbie at all this though. This thread was rediculously educational. Best part was i just found it today soo from begining to end XD XD Thank You very much Scott & everyone who went along for the ride.
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looking forward to seeing some updated pictures since its be several years now!
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what a great thread! amazing patience/time and surely hope you're well rewarded!! I'm way to impatient to ever venture something as that
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Wow! Just found out this thread. I have learned soooo much. What an amazing learning journey in an hour for me. Thanks!
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Would love an update on the babies!!
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Thanks for the update, very interesting times!
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Would love an update on the babies!!


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I just scanned through this thread and WOW, so awesome! I demand an update!
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Awesome, i cant wait to do this myself! ill probably end up useing phals tho! i would looooovve to flask my own, but i know its so hard!
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:51 AM
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Update 12 15 2012

Sorry so long for any updates. Heres the last of them. I found that with my dry heat in my new house, the only way I can keep the seedlings is in a tank. I've also had 2 yrs with 2 major power outtages on 10/29/11 & 10/29/12, left me with no heat for 5 days. temps down into the 40's & 50's. That and with my lack of deflasking experience, I lost most of my seedlings. Heres most of whats left. I had saved one flask & deflasked that one 2 months ago. These are what remains of that flask. I lost alot of those due to a white fuzzy mold that got into the flask. I was holding out on that flask to see if the extra time in flask would help. They receive light from a southern window and are about 4 feet from the windowsill. Do you think they will need supplemental lighting?



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Thanks for the update, but I'm sorry you met with such difficulty. Will you try it again?
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It looks like you still have some viable seedlings - the middle one especially looks like it has the will to live!!

I can't offer advice, just encouragement. Even if you get one plant that grows to bloom, consider your attempt a success. I am hopeful for you - keep us posted on how those survivors are doing!

BTW, could it be that those survivors are the most vigorous of the cross, in a genetic sense (?)
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What an amazing and exciting thread - I imagine your daughter is already 5 years old - she did well not to pick the pod in the meantime. I obviously haven't read all the section but only found the thread today.Well done and as Catt Mandu says - there are still viable seedlings. I shall read the whole thread over the Christmas break and look forward to more news.
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What an amazing and exciting thread - I imagine your daughter is already 5 years old - she did well not to pick the pod in the meantime. I obviously haven't read all the section but only found the thread today.Well done and as Catt Mandu says - there are still viable seedlings. I shall read the whole thread over the Christmas break and look forward to more news.
Thanks everyone. Its been an adventure and its only 1/2 over. Still gotta flower them out! I'd try it again but maybe with something other then a Cattleya.


Mary, yes she is 5 now (going on 15). The thread is long enough that you just may need the whole break to read it all. lol.

p.s. HOLY COW! Just 2 months short of 6 years to get this far. AI started this project 2/21/07. And people wonder why orchids can be as pricey as they are. They have no idea.

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Quick update.

While I havent sent them to boarding yet I do have some new growth. Since adding a florescent light strip.
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Quick update.

While I havent sent them to boarding yet I do have some new growth. Since adding a florescent light strip.
That is encouraging! I have started my own experiment, first attempt at growing seed, hopefully to be followed by sowing seed (I am going to try completely going to do-it-yourself at home).

My first attempt is Cattlianthe Golden Wax x self (my avatar plant), pollinated 12-13-12. I'm thinking seed should be sufficiently ripe between April 15 and May 15? My seed pods are well along, about an inch in diameter, I hope to start a thread of my own about my attempt.

Keep posting pics! I bet you get some really great growth this year, especially on the larger seedlings!
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Holy wowzers, this is EPIC!
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Quick update, With them in a terrarium with a water base (due to my humidity issues), and a reptisun 2.0 florescent light. They're still by the south facing window as in the picture previously posted. The 4 I have left Look strong and the tallest in the pic is doing well. They are working on their 2nd psuedobulbs. They dont have the thinner leaves in the pics. The new ones seem more robust. Im not sure how fast they should grow from this point. Anyone in the know, please let me know. How fast do the babies grow?

I guess its all onward & upward from here. Next time I think I will try some splash petal Phals- like Dtps. The Pride of Ben Yu. Now all I have to do is buy some. lol

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Thanks for the updates! any chance of a couple pics?
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Thanks for the updates! any chance of a couple pics?
Yep, here you go....





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Wow, this is really cool!

Do you know if the cross you made is a new grex? Have you thought of a name for it? I can't wait to see them bloom!
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Wow, this is really cool!

Do you know if the cross you made is a new grex? Have you thought of a name for it? I can't wait to see them bloom!
They're Thwaitesara (Thw.) hybrids. When its time. I plan on naming them after my daughter but havent settled on exactly how it'll be named yet.
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I just read through your amazing 6 year journey! I look forward to seeing them bloom, though now I'll have to follow your progress in real time. I recently pollinated one of my orchids just for fun, to see what happens (self-pollinated) and now I see that if I ever wanted more than just a seed pod it would take a LOT of dedication.
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I wonder if I'll still be alive to see what the flowers are like . Do you know what you expect them to be? Are you allowed to anticipate in this process? It is very exciting but you need stamina - extremely well done so far .
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Ok heres an update for my babies that I deflasked back in October. They seem to be growing ok. I can say good as these are my first babies and Im not familiar with the growth rate at this age. They are still in the terrarium in a south window that is shaded by a big maple tree and I have a single tube florescent light with a repti sun 2.0 full spectrum light (6500k) in it (yes its a reptile lite with uvb, it was the best bulb I had left over when I got the idea for suplimental lighting).

Judging their color, do they seem to be receiving enough light?

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seriously awesome thread!

thanks for taking the time to do everything and post pics

such a shame you lost so many babies.

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@Scott

I wasn't sure if I should post this on your thread or my seed-sewing thread, but I thought I should try here first, since this is more about the history of your experiment. I have been trying to figure out how long it should take to get from flasking the seed to the following steps along the way:

1. Protocorms develop first small leaves

2. Protocorms or seedlings develop first roots

3. Seedlings are old enough to photosynthesize / make their own sugars (assume = leaf development?).

4. Seedlings are likely to be old enough to survive re-plating/transfer to a new flask/agar

5. Seedlings likely to be old enough that re-plating/transfer to a new flask/agar will be needed

6. Seedlings are old enough to survive transfer to a community "pot" or terrarium (no agar needed for survival; fine orchid medium instead)

I started by asking about this on another forum, but then figured out that you should have most of this timeline on your thread. Here are the dates that I see on your thread:

Seed dehisced about April 29, 2009

Seed at the lab and sewn May 2009 (approximately May 18)

Germination reported approximately June 28, 2009 (41 days after sewing)

Mother flask showing strong green coloration August 1, 2009 (75 days (2.5 months) after seed flasked) = somewhere between my steps 1 and 3 above?

Replated December 18 2009 (7 months after seed flasked, = my steps 4 and 5 above)

You received them from the lab January 14, 2011 (not quite ready to de-flask, 20 months after seed flasked)

Deflasked May 8, 2011 (almost 24 months after seed flasked; my step 6)

So, is this similar to what I should expect with my seeds if all goes well?

I hope yours continue to thrive. I can't wait to see them grow and eventually bloom the first time!
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Update....

The few left are really strong, doing well. They seem to like growing in sphag better then bark for me.





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To me, it looks like yours will be blooming size in maybe 3 years! From what I have heard a 9 or 10 year journey from making the cross to first bloom is considered typical, maybe even a little fast. Congratulations on your progress, looking forward to seeing it bloom!
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Thanks! From this end it seems like that day will never come. Lol great now I've got three years to figure out the name to register it as when it blooms. Then there's the whole name change thing. One parent was a Blc. then changed to Rlc. The other parent is still Guaranthe. So these are Thwaitesara.


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Thanks! From this end it seems like that day will never come. Lol great now I've got three years to figure out the name to register it as when it blooms. Then there's the whole name change thing. One parent was a Blc. then changed to Rlc. The other parent is still Guaranthe. So these are Thwaitesara.
Thufferin' thuccotash! In that case, I can't thwaite to see it bloom!
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9 to 10 years might be a bit far fetched. Its more like 4-6 years for me depending on the cross.
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I unflasked some C. purpurata alba seedlings in July '06 and have not had any of them bloom yet. All of them are in 6" clay pots and several have multiple leads. I bought the flask so don't have any idea when they were pollinated but total time will be well over ten years.

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That long? I have a couple of Cattleya that I bought as seedlings, six years ago. They were in 2.5" pots. I have them potted in 4" pots. Beautiful leaves, but that is all they are doing. Since they are so large I'm thinking of putting them in my society's for sale table and hope they bloom for them.
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what a wonderful journey ! Thank you so much for sharing. I just found this thread tonight and have spent the last 2 hours reading from start to finish. Fantastic.
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I found this thread last night and got so caught up in the journey it was after 4am when I finally finished reading and went to bed! Wow, what a ride! Thanks so much for documenting the whole process over the span of so many years.

The seedlings are looking great in your last update. Hopefully your daughter will celebrate her 21st birthday with a specimen plant in full bloom, that was hybridised and named in her honour when she was just 1 year old. How special would that be?!!!

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Thank you. I'd be curious, to try a reverse cross for a shorter wait time. But also to see how it would turn out with the red form and yellow form of G aurantiaca.

From my understanding, with Cattleya, the most common reasons (atleast with me) for them not blooming is light intensity, light duration and hydration. When I bought my house and moved in,, for several years I couldnt flower my cattleya and I lost essentially three flasks of my hybrid with only 4 babies surviving. This was in part due to how dry it is with my oil heat and relying solely on exposure from a southern window exposure. What I failed to consider was just how much light the big maple out front of the window was actually filtering. Not until I kept them outside on the north side where the squirrels didn't find them that I'm now reblooming them. Tried last year in the southern side and the squirrels either unpotted them or ate some of the pseudobulbs. Now in the winter, they're all put in tanks with my misting system and under t5's.
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Pretty neat!
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What a incredible journey from the very start till now. So many years have been put in to this I would hate to see anything go wrong now.. Can you please update your post for us all. I would love to see how they are doing now. Thanks you so much for documenting the whole process for us to follow.
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step by step...

Here's an update. There was a bit of an accident when something got knocked over while I had all the orchids down and two leaves were damages but the injured baby seems to be ok.


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Yeah - that looks like it has healed OK. Just keep an eye on it. Looks like it has a new healthy growth to the left!

I noticed the Jewell Orchids tag in one of the pots - Dave Johnston is one of my buddies from my local orchid club (Northeast Georgia Orchid Society). One of my favorite vendors, too!
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Thanks for the update on your seedlings. They do look good. I have deflasked orchids myself and what a job it is. I also lost a few in the process since I deflasked them in May of this year. One flask the seedlings were just to small to survive and I don't think they should of been sent out when they did. I have 3 of them left out of a whole flask of BLC Golf Green 'Hair Pig' . So I know the feeling of losing them also but it couldn't of been no where near the helplessness you felt when you lost most of yours due to the storm and loss of the electric. I hope we get to see yours bloom in a next few years.
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The jewel orchids is the greenhouse that sold me a young Guaranthe aurantiaca that's in that pot.


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Heres an update with pics........

five days since I started my cross and it looks like one of the two didnt take but theres good sign on the second that I might get a pod....God willing. The flower on the left is turning yellow and looking bad but the first one I did. The flower on the right, the stem of the flower is getting uniform in thickness and staying green in color.

Someone mentioned on the aos that it might not be possible because my pollen parent is a 4n and the pod parent isnt. I dont know what that means. But I have hope. I'll be persistant and also pick up a few other Catts to try later.





woaaahh..!! inspiring!
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Sadly, I lost all my seedlings. They were not very vigorous. Then with my humidity issues (lack of) in my house and my misting system failing (exoterra monsoon system - serious waste of money! went through 3 under warranty). I lost them all. I learned alot and plan on trying it again with out C. aurantiaca.
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