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Few Q's about Phrag besseae...

Here is my update and concerns about my first and only Phrag...
I am afraid I am overwatering it. It's standing in the 3/4 inch of rain water all the time. I am changing it about every 3-4 days. But I found new roots growing upwards (see pic's). What could be the reason if not overwatering?... I thought you can't overwater besseae, I have read it somewhere, I remember clearly............
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The other concern I have is the bud is looking downwards....Everything is upsidedown in my house...........
The second bud is forming there....
Is this normal for the bud to look down so much or it's unhappy for some reason????????
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I feel like telling him "Hey, the roots grow down and the buds grow up, buddy. Don't you know?"
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:39 AM
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Hummm.... Is it to hot or to bright where it is if the standing water is to warm the roots may be trying to get away from it and causing the bud to wilt..... Looking at it gives me the visual of trying to get into a bathtub and the waters to hot so we pull our toes out quickly but it can't do that..... I don't know just a thought if anything like paphs for light and heat mine like it not so bright.
Was just a thought but I don't know...
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Hummm.... Is it to hot or to bright where it is if the standing water is to warm the roots may be trying to get away from it and causing the bud to wilt..... Looking at it gives me the visual of trying to get into a bathtub and the waters to hot so we pull our toes out quickly but it can't do that..... I don't know just a thought if anything like paphs for light and heat mine like it not so bright.
Was just a thought but I don't know...
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Hmmm..., interesting analogy....

The light is definitly not too bright where it's standing during the day. I take it outside every night where the temps get to 50F. It could get to 70-80F during the day in the house when I am at work, but I hope it's not too much even for Phrags..if they are able to cool down to 50F at night......
The bud is not wilting, it's pretty firm, but just looking down.....
Maybe I just worry too much.........
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G'Day Orchidea

Have you read this Phrag besseae culture - growing tips
may give you some more info.

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Have you read this Phrag besseae culture - growing tips
may give you some more info.

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Hey Bernie,
That's a good culture sheet what's the website where you got it from ? Do they have other orchids linked to it for their culture sheets? I really like how that was laid out with where its origins elevation etc. Listed .
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Here is my update and concerns about my first and only Phrag...
I am afraid I am overwatering it.
Hmmmm, not likely unless the mix has all rotted and broken down and rotted. Phrags do best when repotted every year. When was it last repotted?
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It's standing in the 3/4 inch of rain water all the time. I am changing it about every 3-4 days. But I found new roots growing upwards (see pic's). What could be the reason if not overwatering?...
Roots of most all orchids will grow every which way. That could be the reason they're growing upwards. It's not necessarily a sign of something wrong. Now if you weren't getting any new roots at all....
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I thought you can't overwater besseae, I have read it somewhere, I remember clearly............
Probably here, possibly even from me. Like I said above unless the mix is a rotten mess you really can't overwater them.
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The other concern I have is the bud is looking downwards.....The second bud is forming there....
Is this normal for the bud to look down so much or it's unhappy for some reason????????
It's perfectly ok. Sometimes if the spike has been re-flowering for some time the stem gets weaker towards the tip and can't hold the flower upright like the first blossoms but your besseae looks completely normal to me in all respects.

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I agree with Kevin, your plant is doing great.

Why are you putting it outside? It will do fine if left in your grow area. If you grow in natural light or artificial light, you will get a temp differential when the light goes off. Outside some varmint could eat the nice juicy bud. I see a stake in the picture - tie the spike loosely to it and it will raise the bud.

I can't tell from your picture but phrags do best in tall pots so the roots can reach for the water.

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I agree with Kevin, your plant is doing great.

Why are you putting it outside? It will do fine if left in your grow area. If you grow in natural light or artificial light, you will get a temp differential when the light goes off. Outside some varmint could eat the nice juicy bud. I see a stake in the picture - tie the spike loosely to it and it will raise the bud.

I can't tell from your picture but phrags do best in tall pots so the roots can reach for the water.

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Thank you Brooke,
You are so right. It worries me sick. I am running to my outside deck every morning in my PJ's to see if it's still there...... But I get much cooler temps and much higher humidity (I have a big lawn area) in my backyard than inside the house. I usually take my two Masdie's and my Phrag outside. Maybe I should reconsider......
I placed few of my Phals outside on the top of the brick retaining wall in the misty rain we had over the last weeken to freshen them up. Sure enough the snail ate a new forming spike of one of them........ This snail flew over the fence to the greenbelt further than the other ones........ needless to say...........
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........unless the mix is a rotten mess you really can't overwater them.
Thank you Kevin,
I really wanted to hear from you, as you said you grew Phrags nicely in US.
I got this Phrag very early this Spring and repotted it right away because I could see something crawling in the old medium......
I should have used a taller pot, I guess, as Brooke is suggesting.
Oh well, maybe next time I repot......

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WOW... it's happening!!

I am in love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look what I came home to...................


It's not fully open yet, but look how cute he is even half open!!!!!!!


This is just TOO MUCH!!!!!!...
I can't stop looking at him...

You guys were right as always, appears there is nothing wrong with him, at least for now.......
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