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Angry But . . . the rhizome is on 50 degree angle!!!

OK, before I drive all my Geekster friends nuts . . . one more question!

I have heard that sympodial orchids should be planted with the rhizome skimming the surface of the potting medium AND that the leaves should be straight up.

But, several of my young Catts seem to defy this. Their rhizomes grow UP at about a 50 degree angle! So when I repot, either the leaves will not be straight up or the rhizome's will not be horizontal.

See pics - in the first one, the leaves are pointing upward, but the rhizome is at about 50 degrees to the table edge. Second pic: rhizome parallel to table edge, but now the leaves lean.

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I'm a poor person to comment on Catts, as I do not do well with them, but I do know that sometimes the new growths lean if they are not getting enough light. Have you checked the light levels with a meter?

Of course, sometimes the new growths just have a mind of their own and go where they want!
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I know! Some of mine also do this. I've focused on the rhizome up to now and not worried too much about the angle of the leaves, but I'm looking forward to hear what people with more experience has to say.
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Some of my Catts have a naturally more upright habit (pbulbs approx 90 degrees to rhizome), others are more sprawling (as if they were trying to climb something, which they might do in nature, I think that is what your 50 degree plant is doing).

With a well-anchored plant, you can gently stake & tie growing sprawling pseudobulbs into a more upright position - easy does it, though, to avoid damage. Or, you can just accept that the plant will sprawl.
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I moved this thread into the Orchid Care Cultivation category.
You will find not all orchids are going to be the neat, compact, upright growers we all would like to have. They have a mind of their own and will wander. It's just what they do. And, not much we can do about it. As was mentioned, you can try staking, but do it early on. And gradual, or you will risk, breakage.
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I have one that has a growth horizontal with the medium. Just lovely!
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I have one that has a growth horizontal with the medium. Just lovely!
What kind is it?
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It is a Slc but this isn't what it should be doing. The next growth will likely be fine.
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As much as possible I like to let orchids just do what they do.
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Ditto all of the above posters. Most attention is given to how well they're growing and what their needs are, and in return they happily do their own thing.
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Blackvine, did u by any chance get this guy at a big box store, in a net baggie? Perhaps a Better-Gro brand? I ask, because, of my four recent Catt alliance bag baby purchases, (cheap bag babies $5!! yea!) they are ALL FOUR (?!?) growing like this... All leaves are perpendicular to the rhizome, but the rhizome is angled like yours is... The other B nodosa I have (2 are these recent bag babies, but my other one...) it's rhizome is perfectly fine ~ in a straight/flat enough line, perpendicular to its p'bulbs/leaves.... Perfectly healthy, not complaining, but I'm thinking it might have something to do with their original growing conditions?... and I have to wonder if maybe they will grow up to be better behaved? Lol

...I will prob mount mine anyways
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Blackvine, did u by any chance get this guy at a big box store, in a net baggie? Perhaps a Better-Gro brand? I ask, because, of my four recent Catt alliance bag baby purchases, (cheap bag babies $5!! yea!) they are ALL FOUR (?!?) growing like this... All leaves are perpendicular to the rhizome, but the rhizome is angled like yours is... The other B nodosa I have (2 are these recent bag babies, but my other one...) it's rhizome is perfectly fine ~ in a straight/flat enough line, perpendicular to its p'bulbs/leaves.... Perfectly healthy, not complaining, but I'm thinking it might have something to do with their original growing conditions?... and I have to wonder if maybe they will grow up to be better behaved? Lol

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Tiger, I got it from a friend/vendor in Mississippi. I know now that this is normal - many sympodials crawl UP (or down, depending on perspective) as they do in nature, i.e., on a tree. My B. nodosas all crawl sideways. Maybe they grow on lateral branches?? Don't know. I ended up planting it with the newest, bottom most pbulb touching the surface, with the oldest pbulbs above the surface. It seems the oldest are higher than the newest on a few of mine. So, maybe they crawl DOWN a tree??
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Plants always surprise us by doing the unexpected. I really don't usually have that problem with my cattleyas once they are growing in lava rock but often find it to be the case with the ones I buy in bark. Maybe the bark reminds them of a tree?
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Plants always surprise us by doing the unexpected. I really don't usually have that problem with my cattleyas once they are growing in lava rock but often find it to be the case with the ones I buy in bark. Maybe the bark reminds them of a tree?
Hey, you nailed it!!
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There must be a logical reason but I haven't figured out why they do this with bark and not with the rock. I do have the problem with my bulbo but I just keep adding sphagnum moss under the growths that are trying to escape.
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