Cym. sinense var Gorgeous Woman

[Catcym]

I bought this plant bare root a year ago and planted in Schultz orchid mix. I have the Cym indoor and I saw a few new growth. It has not bloomed. The old leaf is darker and new leaf is lighter and smaller overall.
Today I examined the plant and found a new growth base turned black. It might have water rot. Then I immediately remove top layer moss.
I also uncovered some of its roots flying out. Should I repot to a large pot ? please help.

Attached is pictures taken today.
pict1- The Cym
pict2- different angle
pict3- root coming out to surface( flying root)
pict4- flying root 2
pict5- close up of bulbs
pict6- flying root

[solay]

The pot is more than big enough for that size Cym. That Cym. can stay in that pot for another 2 years at least.

If the pot gets too small, you'll get the roots coming out of the drainage holes and wrap tightly around inside the pot. Not flying roots. That usually happens due to watering issues.

The roots are coming up because of the water. They are going to where the moisture is. If you had moss on top, that explain why you are getting roots on top. Cyms. don't need moss in or on top of the pot. That would also explain the rot problem since the moss will stay wet too long around the new growths.

That's my opinion but someone else may have more to add. Hope that helps.

[kmarch]

Georgous Woman isnt' a varietal name (var.). A varietal name is botanical and latinized. Georgous Woman might be a cultivar name if it is an awarded plant or a clone of one. If that's the case it should appear in single quotation marks like this: Cymb sinense 'Georgous Woman.' Maybe someone with OrchidWiz can look it up to see if it is a cultivar name.

Now regarding your problem. Given the info provided, I am inclined to think that the moss you had on the surface may have had somethign to do with the rotting of the new growth. Your pot size looks good. Does the pot have good drainage holes on the bottom so all the excess water can escape? While most cymbidiums like quite a bit of water they still need good drainage.

When was your cymbid last repotted? If it has been more than 2 years or so since it was last repotted, I would consider repotting but using the same size pot.

This cymbid species typically blooms only once a year, so it is not suprising that it has not yet reflowered for you. It's not uncommon for orchids to skip a flowering cycle as they adjust to a growing situation so that can mean waiting as ling as 2 years for an orchid bought in bloom to reflower.

[Catcym]

Thank Solay and Kevin.
The moss was there since day one and wasn't a problem until lately. The pot has a large bottom hole and as well holes surrounding the pot. I'm pretty sure drainage is good.
I received the cym(bare root) in mail and I potted for a year. My concern is that new growth seems smaller.

[solay]

I don't see anything to be concerned about. New growths are smaller until it grows in and bulb to swells. Be patient.
As for the blackened new growth, I would remove it. Sometimes you can use a sterile knife and cut it off without having to take the whole plant out of the pot. Unless the black is going deep into the roots, then you'll have to cut the roots off too. Then sprinkle cinnamon on the cut to prevent infection. The plant will survive. Cyms. are really hard to kill.

[jerrymeola]

I checked OrchidWiz.

There are 7 listed varieties and it surprised me that 4 are in chinese or 1 english and only 2 in latin.

There are 34 awarded plants but none are 'Gorgeous Woman'.

[kmarch]

They can't be botanical varieties if they are in Chinese or English. Botanical varieties are all latinized. Out of curiosity, what are they?

[Catcym]

Originally Posted by jerrymeola

I checked OrchidWiz.

There are 7 listed varieties and it surprised me that 4 are in chinese or 1 english and only 2 in latin.

There are 34 awarded plants but none are 'Gorgeous Woman'.

I got the cym from Winterview orchids in California
they sold it under this name.

[Catcym]

Originally Posted by solay

I don't see anything to be concerned about. New growths are smaller until it grows in and bulb to swells. Be patient.
As for the blackened new growth, I would remove it. Sometimes you can use a sterile knife and cut it off without having to take the whole plant out of the pot. Unless the black is going deep into the roots, then you'll have to cut the roots off too. Then sprinkle cinnamon on the cut to prevent infection. The plant will survive. Cyms. are really hard to kill.

Solay, I'll apply a few drops of dragon's blood to the blackened new growth in hope it may survive. The new shoot still has some inner green stuffs.
I had used dragon's blood on a small Cym that has a crown rot and the cym has recovered.

[solay]

Sounds good. Looks like you have it under control. Good luck.

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by kmarch

They can't be botanical varieties if they are in Chinese or English. Botanical varieties are all latinized. Out of curiosity, what are they?

I'm not an Orchid Wiz user and I can only find reference to two botanical varieties. Could these extra names reflect Chinese naming conventions for Cymbidiums. ie they're what would otherwise be termed cultivar groups (not an applicable term in western orchid nomenclature) in the same way that the Japanese use cultivar groups to define leaf and growth patterns in Neofinetia. Why Orchid Wiz would see fit to list names that are beyond the standard orchid naming conventions is beyond me but it's just a thought.

[kmarch]

Yes, I suspect that the Chinese names are horticultural varieties like we see with Neos but I'm not certain. Both the AOS and AOC systems are unsure how to treat these names as there is no generally accepted, universally used way of expressing them. In AOS publications I have seen them expressed as botanical varieties (absolutely incorrect), as cultivat ephitets (in single quotes) and as an additional name tagged on the end. I have spoken with judges in both the AOS system (who deal whith these plants quite a bit as their popularity in the US is really ramping up) and in the AOC system and none of them knew of any standardized way of treating such names.