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Old 11-05-2006, 08:30 PM
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Odontoglossum questions

Does any one have any of these? I can find listings and tips for most other types but these. I just got it 3 weeks ago. I have it indoors, with 14 hours of light. I'm watering it about every 6 days. Did I mention that its my first orchid? Am I doing right? Any suggestions on a fertilizer and how often to use it?
Anything would be helpful. Thanks.

P.S. Its a Margarete Holm if that makes a difference.
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Old 11-06-2006, 01:05 PM
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Does it say Odontoglossum or is it abreviated? there are two plants with the above hybrid name, one an Odontoglossum, and one an Odontioda. Check out my post on watering using a skewer for testing.
Skewer use for watering of orchids
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Old 11-06-2006, 07:21 PM
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Thanks Cynthia!
The abbreviation is Odm.
I'll check out the skewer post now.
Thanks again,
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Old 11-06-2006, 08:09 PM
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Well, this is a very complex hybrid, even tho the name suggests that it is pure Odontoglossum. If you go to the RHS site ( http://www.rhs.org.uk/research/regis...chidsearch.asp ) and try to search out the parents, you find that there are a great many. However, my guess is that this comes from mostly cool growing low light plants, so grow it with the Phals, low light, and don't leave it in a room that gets very warm in summer. Probably want to water it like Phals too, don't let it dry out completely, but here I am guessing it would be watered like an oncidium, so I could be wrong. Anyone else? Cynthia
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Wow, you are incredible!!! If its low light, how short should I make the light cycle? Any suggestions on fertilizers?
Complex hybrid? Guess I picked a doozy to start with huh?
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Light cycles should always be close to the current natural day length, with maybe an extra hour added to cheat a little (get a little extra growth). Well, the usual term for complex hybrid usually is used to mean intergeneric. This is sort of true for your plant because one of the prarents was moved to another genera from Odontoglossum, but the names aren't changed in the registry. Here, when I say a complex hybrid, I mean that if you trace out all the ancesters, you will find that there may be quite a few Odontoglossum species in the ancestry. I think the only thing difficult about this plant will be the cool growing ancesters, and what the result is in your plant. Just remember that if there is any problem treating it like the average Phalaenopsis, it will probably mean that it needs a slightly cooler environment. But with this many ancesters, the only way to find out if temperature is going to be a probelm is to just grow it a cool as you can and see how it does. Some of the Odont species are not that sensitive to temperature. Maybe someone who grows this cross will show up who has some experience with it. Cynthia
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For everyone you can check the hybrid families at this web site

http://www.orchids.mu/Glossary/Glossary_O.htm

Odm is Odontoglossum a natural family not an intergenetic. This web site has a good discussion of growing conditions for this family.

It is closely related to Brassia (spider orchids) and often crossed with Brassia as this hybrid shows

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thanks alot guys, all of you are great!!
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What a timely post. I was grocery shopping today and found an Odontoglossum that had been neglected and the blooms failed to open. The plant is beautiful with several growths. They marked it way down for me and I look forward to getting it to bloom next blooming season. Do they only bloom once a year and do they bloom from each mature growth each year or only the new ones?
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Old 11-08-2006, 01:53 AM
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Only on the new growths. Cynthia
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On a flowering size plant you can expect 2-3 new growths next year. They are very strong growers.
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Hi, It's me again. Now all the flowers have dropped off. I'm assuming it's because it's at the end of the cycle....(happy thoughts). So, should I cut that long stem/stalk off. Also, should I cut back my light cycle or anything? The rest of the plant looks healthy, it has two smaller growths both of which look fine.
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I have a similar plant I picked up in the grocery store last month. The blooms failed to open so they marked this way down on the price. I looked at the plant close and discovered it had two little spikes that just were starting out! I brought it home and nursed it along. Here's a pic of what I have blooming now. There are six flowers open now (three on each spike).

I am treating it like a the one Jerry has posted since I purchased that particular orchid as well several months back and it was a beautiful plant with flowers that last two months. It is now growing a new pseudobulb so I am hopeful of another spike early next year.
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These complex hybrids can get very "complex" indeed. I have a Odm. MachMose 'Sunglow' X Oda. Niamay 'Goldstrike' that is potted in fine Gublers orchid mix (fine bark and perlite) and I water it approximately once per week. It seems to like it and has bloomed several times in the year and a half I have owned it. When I repotted it last spring it actually ended up being TWO plants instead of one put into the original pot! One blooms with spots and the other blooms plain. A slightly different mix of genetics from the same parents. It is fairly light sensitive - too much light and it turns red really quick, so as Cynthia has suggested - low light like phals is probably going to be best. Enjoy! mike

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Old 11-14-2006, 12:33 PM
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Tom, if that plant you posted a picture of above does not have a tag, it looks very familiar, and is probably a clone. A little looking around on the internet may give you a name.
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It didn't have a tag.

Where would you look ? I assumed it was a nameless grex long forgotten.
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Tom, I'll keep an eye open for it and let you know when I find it.

c.mcadams, I didn't answer some of your questions. Cut the spike off down to where it is convenient to do so, but use a sterilized tool. Don't want to infect the plant with virus. If you are using electric lighting, the length of time the light is on should be close to the length of the real day, plus about an hour or so to cheat a little. So, reset your timer about every 2 months.
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Looking up the plant Miltassia Shelob 'Tolkien', my flower looks similar to that one. What do you think?

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Yes, Mtssa Shelob 'Tolkien' is what Tom showed in the picture. I wish I could find any orchids on sale where I live...In Oklahoma you don't find orchids in the grocery stores.

Must be nice! :-)
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Luci -
Whereabouts in OK? You should update your user profile. Click on the "User CP" link in the top left link and add the information so it appears automatically with your posts.

Not selling them in grocery stores is a good thing since so many are bought and just thrown away. It's such a sin when you consider the effort / time required to grow them. Orchids are *not* just something to buy and throw away as some people do. It's actually sad.

Guess that's why I have so many phal rescues along with Dens now.

Having said that, it's always interesting what you do find there without tags and such great labels like 'Intergeneric Oncidium' or 'Dendrobium' not recognizing the wide variety offered.

Can't save em all but you can save the ones you find interesting.
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