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Old 06-26-2010, 04:48 AM
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What is Lc. and how do I care for it?

Hi everyone, time for another newbie question!

I am getting a "Lc. Cornelia var. coerulea 'Floralia' x Lc. Love Knot var. coerulea 'SVO' HCC/AOS" plant in a few weeks from Fred Clarke. What does the Lc. stand for? The plant was listed under Cattleya.

Does an Lc have different care requirements than a Cattleya? The plant will be in a Southeast window, 70 deg consistently, and 70% humidity. I've attached a picture of what the bloom will look like (if it ever blooms for me). I will take any advice or help you can offer!
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Lc stands for Laeliocattleya. Your plant is a Cattleya Alliance hybrid so general cattleya culture applies.

Because of the reorganization of some genera in the Cattleya Alliance this may no longer be an Lc. Let me check...

...pause whilst checking...

Ok, that didn't take long. This cross has not yet been registered and named so for the time being you'll have to live with listing the full names of both parents. Both parents are now cattleyas. In both hybrids the Laelias concerned have all been reclassified as cattleyas. But there's a bigger problem with the names. Both parents are hybrids and hybrids do not come with varietal names like "var. coerulea." Only species come with varietal names and even then not all species come in different varieties. I understand what the "var. coerulea" bit means, it means that the hybrids were made with the blue forms of the species, but it is not correct to keep the "var. coerulea" with a hybrid.
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That's very pretty. Thanks for sharing.
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You can treat the LC like a cattleya, but I believe it's a miniature and may require a bit more attention.
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Love Knot is a miniature that usually requires being grown drier than regular Cattleya. They often do best in baskets.
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So basically it's a NOID? It's really pretty tho . Thanks for the information about the Lc, or I guess the correction that they are no longer Lc. I'll start looking up Cattleya care~

Edit: When you say Basket, do you mean potting the cattleya directly into a Vanda basket? Is there a type of medium you would recommend to do this (sphag, bark, etc)?

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No Amychu you have an unregistered hybrid, not a NOID. It may or may not eventually be registered but you still know exactly what it is by using the (#1 parent X #2 parent) on the tag.

It doesn't matter what you pot it in as long as you let it dry out between waterings. Everyone has their own prefered potting mix/style but the secret to success is proper watering and the correct amount of light.

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So basically it's a NOID?
Oh no, not at all. It's not a NOID. We know the parents, they're listed in amchu's original post, it's just that this particular cross has not yet been registered.
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I'm confused. I was told by the greenhouse where I bought my LC Love Knot to water it every single day. Now I learn it's supposed to be grown even drier than regular catts. Which is it?
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This points out the danger in trying to find a recipe for growing plants. Three of the species ancestors of this plant are from climates that have significant dry periods and one of those is from a continuous dry area living in full sun. The fourth ancestor (pumila) lives along rivers and in swamps where it sees constant moisture in the form of high humidity. So what does this particular clone want? Impossible to tell. Different seedlings of the cross could easily be completely different in their wants.

Secondly, the watering of this plant depends on your temperatures, humidity, and air flows, plus the type pot or mount and the potting media if any.

Being moist is not a problem. Being drowned will kill the plant...it needs access to oxygen at the roots as do all plants except a few that have evolved to live in standing water. Becoming a prune will seriously hinder your plants growth. They need to be moist...not wet...not bone dry. Accomplishing that depends on your growing conditions. There is no cookbook to achieve it.
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And BLC?

I'm also new to orchids and to orchidgeeks. So hello everyone!

I hear what is being said about the LC label, so what's the meaning and difference when the label says BLC? I have a BLC Maree Song, and another BLC Iceland x Porn Tip that I purchased via eBay. What does this mean in labelling and care - or is it the same as the LC label and care?

All advice gratefully received.

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