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Old 05-06-2018, 10:25 AM
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I got a new orchid for my birthday she's a dendrobium nobile . I have 3 other orchids those 3 are phals which I'm familiar with. I'm not sure how to take care of my New dem. What are the care needs of a dem? Please help... Thanks
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Old 05-06-2018, 06:20 PM
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Hello, birdbrain, and welcome! I hope you will not be disappointed, but that does not appear to be a dendrobium. I believe it is something in the Oncidium alliance. Someone with more knowledge than I will be along to give a better identification.

Oncidiums generally like a little more light than phals, and they don't like to dry out. The temperatures in your home will probably be fine. Good luck, it is a pretty one.
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Old 05-06-2018, 06:38 PM
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Yes it is not a nobile hybrid.

That does look like something from the Oncidium alliance.

So drier in winter, lots of water in summer..........lots of light as per Cymbidiums or Dendrobiums might need. What do you grow already?
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Thank you. Yes I now know it's not a den. And no I'm not disappointed in anyway. I got to pick it out myself usually my husband brings them home for me. He's got "the orchid nip" I've got the full on bite. I love them. I have 3 phals my oldest I've had 3yrs (dumpster rescue) I'd like to know who through it out. My traders Joe's was well stocked in orchids. Mine was the only one on the plastic wrap that read exotic orchid the rest read phals. I was hard to get. I wanted something different more challenging. The tag was wrong. Other orchid enthusiasts say it's a zygopetalum perhaps a hybrid? Im really confused now. I just learned how to pronounce dendrobium lol. Thanks again I do appreciate all of the knowledge out there sent my way
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Thank you. Yes I now know it's not a den. And no I'm not disappointed in anyway. I got to pick it out myself usually my husband brings them home for me. He's got "the orchid nip" I've got the full on bite. I love them. I have 3 phals my oldest I've had 3yrs (dumpster rescue) I'd like to know who through it out. My traders Joe's was well stocked in orchids. Mine was the only one on the plastic wrap that read exotic orchid the rest read phals. I was hard to get. I wanted something different more challenging. The tag was wrong. Other orchid enthusiasts say it's a zygopetalum perhaps a hybrid? Im really confused now. I just learned how to pronounce dendrobium lol. Thanks again I do appreciate all of the knowledge out there sent my way
Initially I thought it could be a Zygopetalum but really not sure. I think it's an Oncidium alliance but not out of the question it could be a Zygo. I think we are all confused........
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Old 05-08-2018, 11:18 AM
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It is hard to see the lip of the orchid in the picture you posted. The zygos I've had usually have that typical large zygo lip. Do you have a picture from another angle that shows more? The leaves do have a thin texture like a zygo. Better pictures would help zero in on a more reliable ID.
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Old 05-08-2018, 03:48 PM
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Thank you. I need all the help I can get.
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Old 05-08-2018, 03:58 PM
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Can you please tell me what zygo lip is? Thanks
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The lip is the part of the blossom that "hangs down" in front. In your plant, it is dark purple, veined at the edge, with white on the reverse side. I agree that it does look like a zygopetalum now that I see the bloom better. If you look at your phalaenopsis blooms, you will see that they have a similar structure but the lip is usually small and curved upward.

This site may interest you: https://www.ctu.edu.vn/~dvxe/Hoa%20L...%20Anatomy.htm
It has a diagram of the parts of an orchid. Or google "Orchid anatomy:.

Here is some information from the American Orchid Society about zygos : http://www.aos.org/orchids/orchids-a...gopetalum.aspx

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Thank you so very much. I'm learning a lot trying to figure out what it is exactly. The zygos' I've seen and that's by photos which are very hard for me to see details. Do the zygo have a broad leaf? Mine does not at least in my opinion. My phals have a broad leaf. New one the broadest leaf is less than 2.5 inches wide. The leaves are mostly long and narrow. All the leaves appear to be growing from the pseudo bulb. From what I really don't think I've learned lol that it is a zygo?? I love It I hope that I do right by it. I'm treating it for now like it's a zygo. Thank you for you help you have helped me
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Thanks again especially the links you sent. I learned a lot I now know what a zygo lip is. When the first flowers opened to me looked like they were already shrinking on the way out. I think different the first few totally open are breathtaking unusual compared to my phal blooms. I'm very happy with my gorgeous New gal.... Thank you again birdbrain aka Vicki Medford Oregon ❤
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Old 05-09-2018, 06:24 PM
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My first guess was it being a Zygopetalum or hybrid, the flower buds, latter pictures erase all doubt. my opinion.
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Old 05-10-2018, 03:55 AM
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Thank you from all I've learned from kind people like you and others that helped me. I also feel confidant enough to call and care for it like a zygo. I'm excited about my New adventure with it.
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Old 05-11-2018, 09:33 PM
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My first guess was it being a Zygopetalum or hybrid, the flower buds, latter pictures erase all doubt. my opinion.
John so I'm confused is my New orchid a zygopetalum or a hybrid? Or a zygopetalum hybrid? Sorry newbie to this type. I can point out a phal from across the room lol thank you so much I appreciate you reply....B
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There are 14 or 15 zygopetalum species--that is, plants that occur in nature. Crosses resulting from breeding any of these together are zygopetalum hybrids, as are any further crosses. Obviously, there are lots of possibilities.
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Old 05-12-2018, 03:44 PM
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Thank you Mr.John, consensus says zygopetalum hybrid. What kinda confused me is zygopetalum. Or hybrid didn't realize that often orchid growers quite commonly use zygopetalum as one of the parents. The flowers on mine smell amazing for some reason I thought hybrids didn't have the amazing scent. I hope this too dumb of a question. Is my hybrid orchid unable to produce offspring? One of my phals has a keike. Is that possible with orchid hybrids?
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Old 05-21-2018, 02:07 AM
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Hi fello orchid geeks, I finally got my iPhone working on getting things moved from old phone to this one. So I had to take some new pics such a better pic

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