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Old 04-12-2008, 01:28 AM
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Talking Koellensteinia graminea

Received plant on Friday 4/4/2008. Plant is in a mix that consists of Spagh moss, Spagh peat, Dyna rock, Vermiculite? (The gold flakes ), Bark, and Perlite. Could have other stuff, but this is what I could see after digging around for a bit.

Just by the consistancy of the mix I'm thinking these are more semi-terrestial and that they like their moisture.

My plant has 6 growths, three spikes in bloom and what appears to be two new growths coming up.

The plant measures 12" leaf to leaf across and the tallest leaf is 9 1/2".

So far I have watered twice and misted with wormtea twice. I don't know about the mix, but I think I'm going to leave like it is for now.
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Sounds like it is pretty happy the way it is. Very nice, I can't wait to see all the those blooms open. Good Luck!
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It's so cute, I can't wait for mine to bloom.
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Unhappy Sad Update~Week 2:



Well adjusting to the desert conditions of my apartment, the blooms fell, one of the spikes dried up, and a couple of the buds blasted.

I water when the medium is about dry, but not fully. I've only watered three times so far. Depressing.....

Still in low light and getting plenty of air.

Okay...Quit sulking already!!!
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Sorry to hear about the blooms. It is still a beautiful plant that once it adjusts should put on a nice show for you.
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Jenny, I received my Koellensteinia graminea about a week before you. Sounds like the plants are about the same size. I had one spike in bloom and another ready to open. I did repot into a fine bark mixture with charcoal, perlite and minimum sphag. It is in my living room with 2 large west windows.................and humidity can be a problem - generally runs 40 to 50 percent. The blooms are good and a lot of new growth. I did note that one new leaf is wrinkled but was that way when I got her. My blooms appear a little lighter in color. I can move it to the bedroom with the humidifier if I need to....
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I'm thinking I might have to do a repot and thought of putting into a similar mix, only without the spagh. If it's super dry in here at my apartment and I have to constantly wet the medium, with it having a soggy base, I'm fearing root rot. These plants need Phal conditions and I've got to find that happy medium I suppose.
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Jenny,
I repotted mine in a fine bark, fine charcoal, and perlite mix. I also added some finely
chopped NZ sphag. I think if you chop it up really well and get it mixed in with the other
media, you would have less of a chance for root rot and still maintain the moisture.
I also lost my buds that were just starting to open. Prob. due to the 40 F temperatures
when it arrived and sat on my front porch until I got home from work. All and all, it
does have new growth and looks fine.
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I was going to do a repot on this a couple of days ago because of the bad roots that were sticking out of the bottom of the pot. I actually had this thing half way out of the pot and then I stopped. There are all kinds of new roots just shooting everywhere!

I just stopped what I was doing and stuck everything back in place. There's no point in messing with a good thing.

I think I can sacrifice a few bad for the many good to come. So if my plant bombs, at least we'll know why.
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This thing is spitting out the most ugliest roots I've ever seen! It kind of grosses me out. Unlike the roots of a Phal (that look cool ) or a Paph, (creepy spider, LOL) these to me look like nasty grubs! (oversized maggots) Yuck!!!!
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Ah, I think I will stay away from buying one of those. This is a first. I usually want to buy what everyone else has. Maggots!!! No thanks. The blooms are nice though. Jenny, you are right! YUCK!
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I'll get a pic up later so all can see.
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See what I mean? Eewwwww.
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Wait till you see mine, little maggots everywhere. I think they are kind of cool, those Paph roots still make me shiver lol. I haven't even got the courage to repot yet, and that monster spider leg is crawling out even further ewww! Yours is looking good.
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Geez Jen, they sure do look weird! Made me run and take a look at mine. The roots look
pretty normal and healthy on the one I got. Looks like Brook has the same scenerio

Sorry about the blurriness. Too much coffee this morning.
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Geez Jen, they sure do look weird! Made me run and take a look at mine. The roots look
pretty normal and healthy on the one I got. Looks like Brook has the same scenerio

Sorry about the blurriness. Too much coffee this morning.
Mine look like that a little further down in the medium, but the ones growing near the top....They just freak me out to the point I don't want to touch it. I use my pokey stick instead.
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Mine look like that a little further down in the medium, but the ones growing near the top....They just freak me out to the point I don't want to touch it. I use my pokey stick instead.
I could almost visualize you poking around in your mix with a stick afraid
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Jenny, You're too funny! I think they look kind of cool...New roots mean healthy plants! Keep us posted on the maggots!
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Very very nice roots! I think all roots look Cool too !as long as they look 'living'.. whatever the shape !
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Yes, Tobi's look more normal in terms of roots to me. Not at all like maggots. Jenny, I'm with you. A stick is your friend.
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jenny, you are tooooo funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am going to have to look in the morning for MAGGOTS...................and if I find any you will hear me SCREAMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm thinking that maybe my plant has lighting issues? Everyone elses plants look fantastic and then I see mine and I notice that I don't even have any new growths on it. So I moved it closer to the light by placing it near the windowsill. This should help, but we'll see.
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I see that everyone else has new growths already and mine is really lagging behind the trail. What are you guys doing for them?
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Jenny,
I moved mine to the northeast side of my room. I was getting good growth but the
leaves on the new growths were not only pleated but were getting brown tips as well.
I know I wasn't over fertilizing, so that was not the cause. I increased the humidity in
my room to about 70% and it seems to be helping the pleating problem. I have about
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This plant just hasn't produced for me, I'm beginning to think this little guy dislikes me. I haven't seen any new root development or new growths.

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A lot of plants go dormant for a while after blooming... Do you think that maybe this is the case?
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Jenny,
If it's any consulation to you, the new growths that were comming up for about a
month after I got mine have stopped growing as well. Nothing seems to be happening
so I'm guessing that it might be resting as Patti stated. Hopefully it will wake up and
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Patience; just keep her alive and she will produce!
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Thanks guys. I just figured that after the blooms fell and giving a month or so, something should have happened by now, besides the maggot looking roots.
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I don't know what's up, mine is growing like a weed. I'll have to update it. I keep it in fairly low light, I ignore it, and water it when I remember. No schedule, this last time I watered it, it had dried out completely. I use a little fert. and Superthrive when I remember (maybe once a month). It's in with the Phals. behind them, low light, 67% humidity today, temp 72 F. I say ignore it.
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Patience; just keep her alive and she will produce!
Ummm, I'm keeping it alive..... Barely. That's about as much as I can say.

I gave it a repot yesterday. The maggoty roots didn't look all that great, so the repot will do it some good. We'll see how things go I guess.
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That's one I didn't get. Good luck, at least it's still alive! Maybe the re-pot is just what it needed.
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The repot worked it's magic. I got growth! I'm pleased as a peach. There's a lot of new growth too. I'm hoping for spikes come Spring.

I took these pics a few days ago and you can see the rebound. I'm happy
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Yay!! Go, Jenny...go, Jenny...go, Jenny...
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That looks good, Jenny! I've had some difficuulty with mine since I got it around the same time you did in April. During the late summer, I had some leaves die off and I thought she was a goner. But I stayed patient with her and she rewarded me with some new growth in I guess about November. My new growth is a little more advanced than yours at this point and I'm not that optimistic about spiking in the spring, but at least she is growing.
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Yours looks great compared to mine!
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I'm just trying to keep her alive. Oak Hill has these in spike right now.
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Just keeping her alive here too. Jenny has given me some inspiration to repot, so I am going to do it today. Mine looks like crap compared to how I got it. I am unsure what cultural condition I am not giving it, but I am seeing that they do not like to be too warm.
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They don't like damp either....

I noticed that when I mist the leaves on this will get fungified really easy, so I do not wet or mist the leaves on this one. I try to avoid it at all cost.
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For those who like to see Koellensteinia graminea in the wild.




This Picture is made in situ. In Suriname a long the Palumeu river. Februari 2009.

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That's beautiful. I'm wowed by all the water that it's near. Mine enjoyed moist, but damp was a no-no. Is there a lot of air flow there?
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He sits on a tree next to a big river. There is a lot of light a lot of air movement and the temperature drops hardly under 20°C (68°F) during the night. Most of the time the temperatuur would be 30°C (86°F) ore more.
Very near to this position there is a rapid (a flow acceleration) not a real waterfall. (Sorry I don't know the good English word.)
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It's gorgeous!!

Your description of the native temps explains why mine seems to be struggling. I keep it pretty cool during the winter.

Thanks for sharing the pics!!
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I wish orchids like that could grow outside here but not happening anytime before christmas and easter fall on the same day
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