Chitchat for the December Photo Comp

[fred]

please feel free to use this thread for all the Comp chitchat for December

thanks
Fred

[Neyra]

This might sound like a stupid question, but I am new here and would like to know how to submit the pictures.

[PhalPal]

Welcome to the forum Neyra! There is an entire thread devoted to taking and posting pictures. Since we all have different equipment and programs to work with, cruise through all the posts and you will find something to match your needs. If you can't find it just ask; we all feel that there are no stupid questions.
Looking forward to seeing your photos. Taking and Processing Photographs - Orchid Forum Orchid Care

[fred]

I just moved the posts into the chitchat section please do not use the photo comp section for chitchat.

Neyra as you are new to the forum the comp photo section is for pictures only the rules do state however all non photo post will be deleted in that section.

[Neyra]

When I asked I meant what did I have to do to submit pictures for competition.

[kmarch]

neyra,

PhalPal has given useful infoon how t post pics. Entering them in this photocompetition is as simple as posting your pics in this thread. Be sure to read the guidelines above and include the names of your plants in the pics being posted, and your level of photographic expertise.

Enjoy!

[Anton]

dejpep is that un-named Phal a violacea ? It has the appearance of a violacea.

[tom499]

I am loving Palito's Paph. Pinocchio Lovely colour indeed!

[robb]

well, i don't know if i'll have any blooms by the end of december, as i have 5 plants showing spikes, but the longest one is about 6" so quite a ways to go yet... patience!

[palito]

Originally Posted by tom499

I am loving Palito's Paph. Pinocchio Lovely colour indeed!

thanks!. It's my first paph. I need to get the pink version too!.

[tom499]

Wow theres a pink version? Show show show!!


Dont worry robb I'm in the same position. I'm waiting for some bright sunshine to awaken my green forest!

[kmarch]

I've been following th Paph Pinocchio post and discussion with interest. Paph Pinocchio is a cross between Paph glaucophyllum and Paph primulinum.

Here's pic of Paph Pinocchio (the colour in this pic is skewed towards the yellows - most Pinocchios I've seen are more pink in the pouch and more green in the dorsal).
Here's a pic of the one parent Paph glaucophyllum.
Here's a pic of the other parent Paph primulinum.

Given the parentage and the colours typically passed on by the glaucophyllum parent, I have doubts that Polito's flower is Pinocchio. I believe it is a straight primulinum. The "pink version" of Pinocchio is actually the real Pinocchio. I've neither seen nor heard of a "yellow version" of Pinocchio. In order for there to be a yellow Pinocchio it would pobably need to be made with a flavum or alba form of glaucophyllum neither of which to my knowledge exists.

Of course to confirm the primulinum ID we'd have to carefully compare it to a botanical description but it is reasonably distinct (the only yellow/green Cochlopetalum species).

[tom499]

For once I understand your fine talking Kmarch and I think your right.

No wonder I liked it so much, I really like Paph primulinum but I'm not keen on Paph glaucophyllum, I just dont like the colour scheme.


I think Anton should make you a 'Plant Detective' avatar

[palito]

Originally Posted by kmarch

I've neither seen nor heard of a "yellow version" of Pinocchio. In order for there to be a yellow Pinocchio it would probably need to be made with a flavum or alba form of glaucophyllum neither of which to my knowledge exists.

the plant is labeled: (from Oak Hill Gardens)
Paph Pinocchio var. album. (primulinum X glaucophyllum var album)

There are pictures of it online
http://www.slipperorchid.com/orchid_...Pug_Free_5.jpg

There is a pic of such Paph. glaucophyllum in this gallery at the bottom.

ECOLOGY PHOTOGRAPHIC Paphiopedilum

[fred]

here is the Comp Awwards for December.
good luck to you all.

[kmarch]

Originally Posted by palito

the plant is labeled: (from Oak Hill Gardens)
Paph Pinocchio var. album. (primulinum X glaucophyllum var album)

There are pictures of it online
http://www.slipperorchid.com/orchid_...Pug_Free_5.jpg

Well, we've seen time and time again that pot tags can be wrong. While I have bought tons of plants form Oak Hill and found then to be quite good with their tag accuracy, no one's perfect and even the best nurseries can make mistakes. Besides there are a few things about this tag that just don't add up. I know of a Paph. primulinum var. alba but have never heard of a glaucophyllum var album. I've never seen it mentioned in an authoratitive text nor have I seen a validly published taxonomical description of one.

There's another problem with this tag in that a normal primulinum crossed with an alba glaucophyllum (assuming it exists) would not produce a Pinocchio alba. To produce an alba Pinocchio you'd need BOTH parents top be alba forms. So that's a bit suspicious. Finally you say the tag reads, "Paph Pinocchio var alba" but the "var alba" is never applied to hybrids because it is a taxonomical expression which appears with species only. Hybrids never come in taxonomical varieties so any time you see a hybrid with a varietal epithet (var., f., forma, etc.) something is wrong.

Originally Posted by palito

There is a pic of such Paph. glaucophyllum in this gallery at the bottom.

ECOLOGY PHOTOGRAPHIC Paphiopedilum

Unfortunately a pic proves nothing. I know the website you've cited and I know Joe Dougherty. He's a great guy and i've judged with him at the Great Lakes Judging Center. Joe is a commercial grower and judge but not a taxonomist and a pic on a website isn't authorative like a valid published description is.

Paph. glaucophyllum var album could easily be primulinum or primulinum var alba. So this tag and the subsequent cross really should not be relied upon until a description of glaucophyllum vr album can be found.

[palito]

OK mystery solved.

I emailed the vendor to find out. The plant is actually a selfing of a pale Pinocchio. these pale ones can sometimes occur alongside the common pink toned ones. The 'album' in the tag was probably just added to differentiate it from the others, but since it is incorrect the vendor fixed the description in their catalog.

[kmarch]

Originally Posted by clarita

Classic White Phal (The Moth Orchid)
is there an actual name for this one?

clarita,

There are literally dozens, possibly even hundreds of registered white Phals. White Phals are probably the mos