| Thanks for all the suggestions! A friend has the vuyl. The flower shape and plant structure is not remotely the same however the patterning is... It may be an ondont./ milt. cross (?) Does anyone have an opinion on that? The flowers are quite long lasting to my surprise.
The top plant does look like some type of Miltassia "shelob" of some sort but again, the spikes were really short for a "shelob" type. The plant is beastly large... I am running out of references... but not quite ready to give up yet
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